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Re: Mental Health and Marriage 20 Feb 2025 02:44 #431714

Hi fellas. I'm not even sure who is on this platform anymore. To all the old chevra, if you're still around, I miss you. To all the new guys, welcome! 

I had a pretty awesome streak for some time. Then, when things became difficult in every area of my life, I jumped right back into my old ways. At this point, everything feels like it's achieved a strange equilibrium. Things have gotten easier with my job and leaving Kollel in general, but at the same time, I don't feel like I'm growing at all in my Judaism. I have a few things that I try to hold on to, but even those are the bare minimum. I'm not OTD or anything, but I am hardly doing any positive obligations of Yiddishkeit. I hope to tip the scales back towards doing the things I know will fulfill me and give me purpose. But if more stressors are added to my life, I'm afraid I will backslide into the dark place where I recently found myself.

A GYE friend and I decided to go for 90 days. Today is Day 0 as I messed up already. I will post tomorrow for Day 1. I hope he decides to join me in posting our journeys.  

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 20 Feb 2025 08:00 #431725

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I just read through your whole thread. It is amazing to see how much you changed throughout your journey from your starting point. As HHM once posted, your problem seems to be anxiety and not masturbation. It is possible that the same is true for your religious practice. Perhaps through resolving your anxiety you will find it easier to be more involved in your Yiddishkeit. You once posted that you were going to try out Urge Surfing. Did you find that Urge Surfing or other meditation exercises on GYE resolve or heal your anxiety?

I found that Urge Surfing, SOBER and other mindfulness exercises calm me down very much. I used Urge Surfing for anxiety even without a sexual urge and I labeled my Urge as anxiety. I used to have panic attacks and ever since I have been doing these exercises I have been successful in lowering my anxiety level to 2-3 out of 10. For about a year my anxiety level is almost always 0-2 and I almost never have to do mindfulness exercises anymore. Medicine also helped but it was primarily the exercises on GYE that got me to where I am today. My diagnosis is bipolar disorder and anxiety is only a secondary illness.

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 20 Feb 2025 14:01 #431735

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well when ya got my illness of anxiety+OCD then try urge surfing, mindfulness and SOBER it ain't fun sir!

Wait an I doing this right???......Is this the correct way to do mindfulness????........how long, slow and deep is that breath supposed to be????????........is this actually gonna work or help?????...........what the bleepaty bleep do you mean veiw your whole body from above are you sopposed to see both your stomache and back at the same tme??? a 360 panamaric view??? just the front????.....this urge surfing thing is killing me!!!!.....why is it sopposed to work????....do i feel the urge too much????? too little???? just tottally wrong?????......AAAAARGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 20 Feb 2025 14:14 #431736

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azivashacheit101 wrote on 20 Feb 2025 14:01:
well when ya got my illness of anxiety+OCD then try urge surfing, mindfulness and SOBER it ain't fun sir!

Wait an I doing this right???......Is this the correct way to do mindfulness????........how long, slow and deep is that breath supposed to be????????........is this actually gonna work or help?????...........what the bleepaty bleep do you mean veiw your whole body from above are you sopposed to see both your stomache and back at the same tme??? a 360 panamaric view??? just the front????.....this urge surfing thing is killing me!!!!.....why is it sopposed to work????....do i feel the urge too much????? too little???? just tottally wrong?????......AAAAARGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

Don't mind the spelling people, you see misspelling is part of my personal form of mindfulness........you see when you take a deep breath (with an unclear & unspecified amount of deapth, pace or time) and stare deeply into the utter deapth of a misspelled word... then eventually you will pass into a deep slumber and climb out of your mind to the realm of a spiritual  holyistic out of body experiance.... you will then decend in peacful meditation back into you battered body with a new and improved hallucanating mind and soul.....try it guys it may just work for you.


all kidding aside I'm not knocking mindfulness it just makes me personally crazy (or more crazy I should say I'm a wackjob without it too!)

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 20 Feb 2025 19:48 #431765

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I guess you would be better off with something like Distraction where you get involved in something fun and enjoyable that is readily available. I don't think it would get rid of anxiety but it would at least give you the a different option instead of falling. Are there any other tools that worked for you?

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 21 Feb 2025 03:15 #431803

Day 1. Started with a stressful morning as usual. It took a bit to gain my footing after that. I came home to some chaos but it wasn't too bad. Overall I feel depressed. I can't mess up on Day 1 though, so I think I am good to go for the rest of the night.

I don't remember committing to trying urge surfing, but it sounds like something to look into. I have OCD+anxiety also, but I have found mindfulness and acceptance to be helpful, and to accept the OCD thoughts that come up at the time as part of the exercise. 

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 21 Feb 2025 21:21 #431844

Day 2. Classic stressful Friday. Didn't have tome to fall (though to be fair to myself, that didn't stop me on previous Fridays). Day 90 seems very very far away. I think I am good for today. Good Shabbos. 

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 23 Feb 2025 20:53 #431896

Shabbos, Day 3. Was fine, didn't have much motivation to fall. Sunday. Worst days ever invented. Kids are cooped up at home, everyone is grating on each other's nerves. The one day I potentially have to get some stuff done and maybe even relax, I spend trying to entertain everyone, which is usually a disaster. I took the family to a restaurant today for the lunch special. It was a disaster. The food came out late, the kids were crying, when the food finally did come out my wife was MIA due to trying to eat, so I was trying to feed the kids myself. When I finally got them to calm down, my wife was already done with her food and she started mooching mine, so I snapped at her, and everyone came home in a worse mood than when they started. This is a pretty standard occurrence. As sad as it is, and I wish it wasn't this way, my least favorite time is that which I spend with my family. I am very grateful to have them, but I wish our outings didn't always turn out like this. All the boxes are checked for a fall right now, stressed, frazzled, feeling unaccomplished, and bored (stuck at home again watching baby).
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Re: Mental Health and Marriage 23 Feb 2025 21:52 #431897

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keep strong. we're here for you

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 24 Feb 2025 13:02 #431926

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hashemyeracheim613 wrote on 29 Oct 2024 02:04:
Hi everyone. There are a couple of points I would like to hit up.
1. Someone suggested that my problem might be depression. I've been to many therapists in my life, and while I've experienced feelings of depression, it was usually chalked up to my inability to deal with my other mental issues. Once I worked on those, the sadness dissipated. That being said, my cynical tendencies are not helping my situation. 
2. I had a streak of ninety days recently. I think the idea that helped me the most of anything is a YouTube short. In it, a lady was talking to a drug addict about how to deal with his addiction. She told him that he has to accept to deal with any pain that would result of him being sober, no matter how horrifying. This helped me a lot. When I was extremely stressed and "needed" to let loose, I was able to tell myself that I already knew this was coming, and had accepted it already. This helped me embrace the pain of not giving in. I only messed up once I decided that I didn't want to deal with the pain.
3. I messed up recently. I had a streak from Erev Rosh Hashana until yesterday. I want to try the above-mentioned method again. Wish me luck.
4. Welcome to all new members. I've skimmed a lot of posts, and for many people, it seems that the root cause is not masturbation. I feel comfortable saying that most people on this forum can use a good therapist. If you haven't tried it yet, please do. For those that have tried and it's not working, stay with it. I went to many therapists before I even tasted mild success. It was so worth it once I found the right one. 

I found that mindfulness and IFS (Internal Family Systems therapy model (there is a book on how to to do it on your own without a therapist)) can be very helpful without even going to therapy.
Porn and masturbation is actually just a survival tool for the psyche to try to protect itself from painful, yes, sometimes very painful, awareness and emotions.
When we can live with and/or manage the things that the p and m are covering up and trying so hard to smother, then we can instead embrace those powerful negativity aspects in us and find the beauty and real humanity within them.

Sounds utopian? It is, but it works!
When 2 yidden get together, it is two nefesh elokis (godly souls) against one nefesh hebehamis (animal soul)
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Re: Mental Health and Marriage 24 Feb 2025 23:18 #431959

Day 5. Let's go! For those of you who mentioned anxiety, you're spot on. I constantly have an undercurrent of anxious energy pulsating beneath my psyche. Any advice on this is much appreciated (besides for therapy. I love therapy, but I can't afford it). Some of you mentioned some resources, I will comb through the old posts to see what they are. To the person who mentioned the book on IFS, what is that called?

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 25 Feb 2025 13:20 #431992

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hashemyeracheim613 wrote on 24 Feb 2025 23:18:
Day 5. Let's go! For those of you who mentioned anxiety, you're spot on. I constantly have an undercurrent of anxious energy pulsating beneath my psyche. Any advice on this is much appreciated (besides for therapy. I love therapy, but I can't afford it). Some of you mentioned some resources, I will comb through the old posts to see what they are. To the person who mentioned the book on IFS, what is that called?

Self-TherapyA Step-By-Step Guide to Creating Inner Wholeness Using Ifs, a New, Cutting-Edge TherapyBy Jay EarleyPhd Jay Earley
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Self_Therapy/Ny96Z7N_ihsC?hl=en&gbpv=0

Have your wife/mother fill in the characters in the illustrations to make them frum tznius.
When 2 yidden get together, it is two nefesh elokis (godly souls) against one nefesh hebehamis (animal soul)
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Re: Mental Health and Marriage 26 Feb 2025 01:39 #432069

Day 6. I feel like I'm slipping into depression. 

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 26 Feb 2025 12:43 #432105

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hashemyeracheim613 wrote on 26 Feb 2025 01:39:
Day 6. I feel like I'm slipping into depression. 

I feel for you.
You won't die from depression, even though our psyche may make us feel that we are literally can't live with it.
Cutting out the P and M helps us not cover up our emotional difficulties, and eventually then heal them since they are now on the surface, they are now in arms reach to be accessed and then healed.
When 2 yidden get together, it is two nefesh elokis (godly souls) against one nefesh hebehamis (animal soul)
Feel free to private message me.

Re: Mental Health and Marriage 27 Feb 2025 23:21 #432208

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while they are more accessible to be healed the healing doesn't happen by itself. something has to happen for it to be healed. many use therapy for this.
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