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Re: making the silent battle...not. 12 Jan 2010 23:11 #45078

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Where's the thread about movies?

That's OK, steve, I'll expect a pound of flesh for my birthday present  :D(someone told me that in some shaila u'tshuva sefer, they actually discussed whether or not that deal would work, halachically)...
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 13 Jan 2010 05:09 #45161

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Ano Nymous wrote on 12 Jan 2010 15:12:

silentbattle wrote on 12 Jan 2010 14:59:


Ano...just to clarify - do you mean that you can watch movies with NO problem, and NEVER have an issue of lust? because honestly, if so, that's pretty incredible...But it sounds to me like you're saying that you're free because you no longer feel the chains that were dragging you to lust in the past...?


I mean that I've watched movies with a SMALL amount of sexual content (I can't do this with porn  ) and I can simply look away during that type of scene. This is how it works. I'm watching the movie, and something comes up which I should not see. I have two choices: 1) Watch it closely and feel lustful, which means I am taking a suicidal "first drink," or 2) Look away and simply shut off my mind until it passes. I've been able to do #2, simply because I CAN'T do #1. BTW, (I have to say this before guard does) I don't recommend putting yourself in this kind of situation. I have only done so because I am weak...but my goal with this idea is simply to provide encouragement to those who feel that lust will never loosen its grip on them at all. With enough work, it just might.


See though... the reality is that we can't shelter ourselves completely. We WILL! be exposed to things we don't want to be. Now of course we need to avoid it as much as possible. But if you can't let go of movies quite just yet, you can start working on yourself now... by looking away. The last time I hit 30 days, these scenes (and random hos on the street..) would upset me. I'd look away out of annoyance and disgust... do that with the movies... look away, be annoyed... when a perfectly good movies is ruined by that stupid stupid useless annoying scene. As I mentioned before about the tightrope DOCUMENTARY... barely even a movie... and they had a scene... a totally useless scene... added ZERO to the film. So don't forget that its VERY dangerous...

Oh also... you can start going down the ladder... limit yourself to pg 13. then to pg....

ok... blabbing over :-)
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 13 Jan 2010 14:38 #45267

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Just a random post on how ridiculous we can be...years ago, was sitting in my room, with a friend and 2 roommates. The friend commented on the book that was lying on one of the other beds, saying it was a good book, but had some dirty parts...roommate #1 said, "really? I don't remember any bad parts!" Roommate  #2 says, "oh, yeah, it's on page 127..."

Don't know if I should laugh or cry...
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 13 Jan 2010 15:11 #45284

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Laugh with a tear in your eye!!!!  Just keep working on yourself.  Your doing amazing things.  BTW, I think a lot of people agree this is one of the best threads on GUE!!!
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 13 Jan 2010 15:36 #45292

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hmm...page 127...ummm...there's nothing dirty there. Perhaps you were given the wrong page number?
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 13 Jan 2010 16:10 #45304

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:D :'(
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 13 Jan 2010 20:03 #45427

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How is your day going?
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 13 Jan 2010 22:55 #45507

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Going well, thank god! This morning was a little stressful, and then (to make things better) I got an offer of a massage from an old friend...ARRGH!! > Explained that I'd love to but couldn't...if she doesn't get the message, i'll have to be more blunt about my goodbye.

How are you? Actually, I'm about to head over to your thread to see what's happening - that's always inspirational!
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 14 Jan 2010 00:03 #45526

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Sigh...decision time...

Well, not yet...I'm going to give things a few days before deciding. Right after feeling hurt is never the time to make a decision, right?

Still..."curse word"! :'(

If you're not sure what I'm talking about...rehab-my-site.com/guardureyes/forum/index.php?topic=1540.0
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 14 Jan 2010 02:47 #45539

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I hate to say this but I really don't think much is going to change.  I think people who have been afraid to post things might not be.  I still feel the most important thing more then this, is to have an area for the spouses.  No need to decide anything.  You and I are always posting on each others, I am married, you are single.  Do you think our posting in each other threads is going to change.  Not a chance of that change.
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 14 Jan 2010 02:53 #45541

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Sigh...I don't like feeling like a second-class citizen. now i just feel kinda sick.

Heading out now...maybe I'll be back tomorrow.

I can still be there for you, even if it's via email.
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 14 Jan 2010 02:57 #45544

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I'm not going anywhere.
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 14 Jan 2010 05:27 #45572

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silentbattle wrote on 14 Jan 2010 02:53:

Sigh...I don't like feeling like a second-class citizen. now i just feel kinda sick.

Heading out now...maybe I'll be back tomorrow.

I can still be there for you, even if it's via email.


SB -

it's all a matter of perspective. I think I hit on a good one, sort of a live and let live approach. We're not gonna break down, it's just a place for the few who feel uncomfortable to talk behind an invisibility cloak. Lozem Gaine. See my post on that thread you mentioned, the one right before I answered your questions.

Nothing's really changed. Would you feel second class if we had a group of yiddish speakers, or all hebrew postings in their own threads - I could see it, but NEVER understand it, so i'll never be a part of those discussions. Do i feel excluded? NO. They need that bond. It's selfish of me to deny them of that.

I think everyone here realizes the need and the gevaldig chizuk we get from our ACHDUS. That won't be lost if people realize they keep only their private discussions private, not make it into a whole separate forum, and stay involved in the lives of the rest of the group. Perhaps Guard can arrange to moderate that thread to make sure the don't get too cliquey.

Don't go. This place is getting interesting again because of you, man. Hang in there. You know I care.
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 14 Jan 2010 10:48 #45604

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I think steve is totally right.  Hang in there.  This is helping you find peace of mind, don't change a thing you are doing.
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Re: making the silent battle...not. 15 Jan 2010 14:57 #45999

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OK...I think I'm back.

Even while I was hurting, I was aware that it was an emotional response, and it's kinda incredible - it's like this was prepared by the yetzer hora to push every single one of my sensitive buttons.

Which, of course, I'm sure it was - nothing happens by accident. My dilemma was, that even if it is an emotional response, it's still real - my thoughts about leaving weren't because I was wronged, it would have been just to avoid the hurt.

This was certainly a reminder for me of how much I have to work on my issues, my neediness, my hurt.

Thank you very much to all the people who showed that they cared. I'm back now.
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