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Re: The Workout Room! 26 Jan 2017 01:43 #304269

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I just want to clear something up. The Big Book does not say "beyond human aid," it says "that PROBABLY no human..." That was key for me. Because maybe I'm not beyond human aid? But I probably am. 

Here is my actual stepwork on the matter: "The key word for me here is probably. I’m a very literal person by nature. I cannot say that it’s unfathomable that a human could have relieved my disease. However, I can say probably. I went to therapy for many years but it didn’t get rid of my disease. I tried all sorts of things by myself which didn’t work. I spoke to Rabbis and that didn’t work either. What did work was joining a spiritual program and inviting God into my life. All those things point evidence that human power has failed when it comes to relieving my disease. Therefore, I am confident that probably no human power could have relieved my lust addiction."
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Re: The Workout Room! 26 Jan 2017 02:48 #304279

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Shlomo24 wrote on 26 Jan 2017 01:43:
I just want to clear something up. The Big Book does not say "beyond human aid," it says "that PROBABLY no human..." That was key for me. Because maybe I'm not beyond human aid? But I probably am. 

Here is my actual stepwork on the matter: "The key word for me here is probably. I’m a very literal person by nature. I cannot say that it’s unfathomable that a human could have relieved my disease. However, I can say probably. I went to therapy for many years but it didn’t get rid of my disease. I tried all sorts of things by myself which didn’t work. I spoke to Rabbis and that didn’t work either. What did work was joining a spiritual program and inviting God into my life. All those things point evidence that human power has failed when it comes to relieving my disease. Therefore, I am confident that probably no human power could have relieved my lust addiction."

Valid point, but not relevant to the past immediate discussion.
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Re: The Workout Room! 26 Jan 2017 06:18 #304289

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Yeah.
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Re: The Workout Room! 26 Jan 2017 18:46 #304408

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Selfishness, self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles. Driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity, we step on the toes of our fellows and they retaliate. Sometimes they hurt us, seemingly without provocation, but we invariably find that at some time in the past we have made decisions based on self which later placed us in a position to be hurt.

So our troubles, we think, are basically of our own making. They arise out of ourselves, and the addict is an extreme example of self-will run riot, though they usually do not think so. Above everything, we addicts must be rid of this selfishness. We must, or it kills us! G-d makes that possible. And there often seems no way of entirely getting rid of self without His aid. Many of us had moral and philosophical convictions galore, but we could not live up to them, even though we would have liked to. Neither could we reduce our self-centeredness much by wishing or trying on our own power. We had to have G-d's help.

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Re: The Workout Room! 27 Jan 2017 03:59 #304447

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Wishing everyone a good Shabbos and a guten chodesh. The sforim tell us that rosh chodesh shvat is very mesugal for hischadshus - starting anew. It is the day Moshe Rabeinu began to explain the Torah. It is rosh hashana for trees according to Shammai - because the sap begins reviving the trees on that day. Yidden were given the special koach of hischadshus - just look at our incredible history of rebirth after every destruction. We in GYE understand what it means to begin life anew. Let's utilize this special zman to continue in our recoveries with renewed energy and dedication.
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Re: The Workout Room! 01 Feb 2017 16:34 #304743

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This is the how and the why of it. First of all, we had to quit playing G-d. It didn't work. (Would you agree - yes-no?) Next, we decided that hereafter in this drama of life, G-d was going to be our Director (yes-no?). He is the Principal; we are His agents. He is the Father, and we are His children. Most good ideas are simple, and this concept was the keystone of the new and triumphant arch through which we passed to freedom.

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Re: The Workout Room! 05 Feb 2017 14:22 #304914

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stillgoing wrote on 01 Feb 2017 16:34:


This is the how and the why of it. First of all, we had to quit playing G-d. It didn't work. (Would you agree - yes-no?) Next, we decided that hereafter in this drama of life, G-d was going to be our Director (yes-no?). He is the Principal; we are His agents. He is the Father, and we are His children. Most good ideas are simple, and this concept was the keystone of the new and triumphant arch through which we passed to freedom.



In what way were we "playing G-d. " and how would we stop? What does it even mean? I do not tell other people how to run their lives.

Re: The Workout Room! 05 Feb 2017 17:37 #304945

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Re: The Workout Room! 26 Feb 2017 22:24 #306877

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Yes, I see what you mean. I do think that I know how things should work out. I get disappointed and frustrated. You are right. I have these feelings, because I assume that my original opinion of how things should work out was superior to Hashem's. If I would have "quit playing G-d", I would accept that this is what is actually best and the actual G-d is running the world the way He knows is really best.

Re: The Workout Room! 26 Feb 2017 22:29 #306879

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mirror wrote on 26 Feb 2017 22:24:
Yes, I see what you mean. I do think that I know how things should work out. I get disappointed and frustrated. You are right. I have these feelings, because I assume that my original opinion of how things should work out was superior to Hashem's. If I would have "quit playing G-d", I would accept that this is what is actually best and the actual G-d is running the world the way He knows is really best.

Hell of a post!

We like to think we can be the actor, producer, director, curtain closer, (moderator), designer and all.

When it screws up, we like to blame God.

Oh, how screwed up we really are.

Thanks for this realization.
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Re: The Workout Room! 16 Dec 2018 20:05 #337856

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cordnoy wrote on 26 Feb 2017 22:29:
mirror wrote on 26 Feb 2017 22:24:
Yes, I see what you mean. I do think that I know how things should work out. I get disappointed and frustrated. You are right. I have these feelings, because I assume that my original opinion of how things should work out was superior to Hashem's. If I would have "quit playing G-d", I would accept that this is what is actually best and the actual G-d is running the world the way He knows is really best.

Hell of a post!

We like to think we can be the actor, producer, director, curtain closer, (moderator), designer and all.

When it screws up, we like to blame God.

Oh, how screwed up we really are.

Thanks for this realization.
BIG SHOT!
Free Choice?!
Yirai's Memories
STORY TIME :)

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Re: The Workout Room! 26 Mar 2019 03:07 #339986

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Shlomo24 wrote on 26 Jan 2017 01:43:
I just want to clear something up. The Big Book does not say "beyond human aid," it says "that PROBABLY no human..." That was key for me. Because maybe I'm not beyond human aid? But I probably am. 

Here is my actual stepwork on the matter: "The key word for me here is probably. I’m a very literal person by nature. I cannot say that it’s unfathomable that a human could have relieved my disease. However, I can say probably. I went to therapy for many years but it didn’t get rid of my disease. I tried all sorts of things by myself which didn’t work. I spoke to Rabbis and that didn’t work either. What did work was joining a spiritual program and inviting God into my life. All those things point evidence that human power has failed when it comes to relieving my disease. Therefore, I am confident that probably no human power could have relieved my lust addiction."

Lately, the human race has taken a downturn, from the way i see it. That "probably" is almost a certainty. God - I don't know too much about; as long as He's an unknown, it's worth a shot!
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