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Re: Tryin' 16 Jan 2017 05:42 #303204

thanks613 Current streak: 1 day OFFLINE Gold Boarder Posts: 280 Karma: 13	I agree with most of that. But Sour Cream 'N and Onion is way better than BBQ (oops-chalav stam!)

Re: Tryin' 16 Jan 2017 06:44 #303220

Singularity Current streak: 72 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder To write, or not to write? Posts: 1507 Karma: 78	thanks613 wrote on 16 Jan 2017 05:42: I agree with most of that. But Sour Cream 'N and Onion is way better than BBQ (oops-chalav stam!) Seconded that! And thanks cordnoy. Very true. And thanks Skeptical. Thanks all y'all.
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Re: Tryin' 16 Jan 2017 10:16 #303238

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My response to skep:

cordnoy wrote on 16 Jan 2017 01:14:

I love your explanation.
I love the content.
I love the style.
I love the conclusion.

I have one disagreement, but it might be a big one.

I believe there are those that have addictive tendencies at age 12, 14 and 23. I believe that there are those who are strongly healthy at those ages as well.

But there are those in the middle, and they can go both ways. They can become addicted or they can become even stronger. That is where prevention, luck, surroundings, filters, rabbis and others aspects come into play.

I also think that many of us who are "addicted" fit into that middle category. We made some poor decisions along the way.

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Re: Tryin' 16 Jan 2017 17:31 #303294

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I used to think that all addicts are born with their addiction. I don't believe that to be true anymore. I do believe that some are like that, but I also think that addiction can develop with life circumstances. I know guys who have been masturbating since they were 3,4,5 years old. Personally, I have been having sexual dreams and getting erections since somewhere between the ages of 3 and 5. But not everyone is like that. I went to an addiction therapist for a short time and he said that there are 3 levels, 1) User 2) Abuser 3) Addict. I suspect that there are many "abusers" in 12-step.

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Re: Tryin' 17 Jan 2017 08:28 #303347

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Shlomo24 wrote on 16 Jan 2017 17:31:

Any idea how you differentiate between 2) and 3)?

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Re: Tryin' 17 Jan 2017 16:51 #303391

shlomo24 Current streak: 1 day OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 2213 Karma: 134	An abuser is using more than he should, and it's affecting his life. But he's not losing his life to his substance. His life isn't completely unmanageable. But the addict is losing his life to his substance. His life is unmanageable and he's consistently going against his own will. It's similar to the 3 phases of drink 1) Man drinks drink 2) Drink drinks drink 3) Drink drinks man.
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Re: Tryin' 17 Jan 2017 20:10 #303425

mayanhamisgaber Current streak: 44 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 1198 Karma: 71	By the way cordnoy sorry that i'm a little late but MAZAL TOV on 9000 may you be zocha to help many more poeple and continue to help all of us
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Re: Tryin' 17 Jan 2017 22:06 #303429

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MayanHamisgaber wrote on 17 Jan 2017 20:10:

By the way cordnoy sorry that i'm a little late but MAZAL TOV on 9000
may you be zocha to help many more poeple and continue to help all of us

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Re: Tryin' 17 Jan 2017 22:11 #303430

mayanhamisgaber Current streak: 44 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 1198 Karma: 71	posts sorry i lack the humor that markz watson and the others posses to properally congratulate you but please keep up the good work
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Re: Tryin' 18 Jan 2017 00:39 #303437

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Ribbon shel Olam, I offer myself to You - to build (?) with me and to do with me (my family as well?) as You will (You're actually doin' that anyway). Relieve me (please) of the bondage of self, that I may better do Your will (for that would go a long way). Take away my difficulties (ok; just some of 'em maybe), that victory over them....yada, yada, yada....take 'em away please, for I want 'em away.

Ya' see...the difficulties referenced here in this prayer is ego, vengeance, self-centeredness (?), haughtiness and others. I davened for my difficulties with son a and c and the wife - that's it for now.

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Re: Tryin' 18 Jan 2017 04:18 #303446

mayanhamisgaber Current streak: 44 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 1198 Karma: 71	posting to get to the page
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Re: Tryin' 18 Jan 2017 07:13 #303457

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cordnoy wrote on 18 Jan 2017 00:39:

I like it.

They should revise the Artscroll.

Re: Tryin' 18 Jan 2017 07:26 #303462

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Singularity wrote on 18 Jan 2017 07:13:

cordnoy wrote on 18 Jan 2017 00:39:

I like it.

They should revise the Artscroll.

wasn't going to say anything but i can't agree to singer here
maybe this is just how you post and if so ignore me but....
cords sounds like he is giving up and screaming for help is this the way we should be davening to HASHEM FOR HELP no wonder things are going hard it doesn't sound like we are serious that we need help......
tell me if i missed the boat...

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Re: Tryin' 18 Jan 2017 09:32 #303474

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MayanHamisgaber wrote on 18 Jan 2017 07:26:

Singularity wrote on 18 Jan 2017 07:13:

cordnoy wrote on 18 Jan 2017 00:39:

I like it.

They should revise the Artscroll.

I see it as a brutally honest prayer. basic text of what one would see in the siddur, with parentheses of what our actual thoughts are (if we think during davening). And Hashem wants honesty. mid'var Sheker tirchak. In your mind as well.

Or I may be wrong. See, cords, I told you I winged my pshat that other time.

Re: Tryin' 18 Jan 2017 10:52 #303478

mayanhamisgaber Current streak: 44 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 1198 Karma: 71	i think what deturbs me most is the yada yada yada part probably just the way cords posts ut hope that it's nt the way he feels and prays....otherwise agreed that it is a brutally honest prayer sorry if i'm so picky B'hatzlacha
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