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Re: Stopping addiction without 12 steps?? 15 Mar 2013 05:17 #203594

  • yehoshua
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Hi,

how are doin Chaver!?
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Re: Stopping addiction without 12 steps?? 19 Mar 2013 20:37 #203745

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Yes Emu...but sadly, you speak of saving ourselves "even at personal cost." Yet so many are not willing to take any real action! Action? Sure...as long as it is not real!

Hiding behind a computer wrapped in a fake name saves us from any personal cost that is really personal - really real!

When Rabban Yochanan ben Zakai was dying, he blessed his talmidim - who were tanno'im! - that they should have fear of Heaven that is as real as their fear of real people. They were dissapointed, and told him so. He reminded them that we are all fakers. Even these talmidim were fakers on some lofty level. Open communication with a real live person is another world entirely. A world that Rabban Yochanan ben Zakai said motivates us more than yir'as Hashem probably ever will - even for tanno'im. Yet here we are, many of us making great personal sacrifice - as long as it isn't really personal...

My prayer is that more guys use this forum to make friendships that are real - chat and call other guys who are sincerely sacrificing to get better be"H. Make real friends and meet eachother. Get out of the shadows.

This geulah is kosheh. Ksheh, me'od.

Search "Captain Kirk" on this forum, for more on the beauty of realness and ending the double life and making it one life. It's what yichud hama'aseh means.

Love,

Dov
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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