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Re: I need help 11 Apr 2013 22:03 #204928

thank you r' dov.

& for GYE2 i think i still owe money from my preveious kabala... sometimes between sukkos & chanuka... i can't afford to take the chance again! (after all; semi-gilui arayos is much better than semi gilui-arayos & shvuas shav, isn't it?)
I need to remember that:
I'm no a bad person; I'm sick.
I'm not A Choteh. I'm A Chole.
It take time & effort to stay sober but it worth it.

Davening to hashem to keep me sober 1 day @ a time since יום ג שבוע של יום-הכיפורים ו תשרי ה'תשע"ד 
10 Sptember 2013

(and to keep this date)

Re: I need help 12 Apr 2013 01:51 #204958

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everyone has different things that works for them...
i am not sure Thaphsic is working for me completely, but every time it helps me and i don't fall is a success itself

if you still owe money from your last thaphsic method then i think this is not for you...
Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it
If it is good it is you!
And if looks not good it is also you!
If it is you it is Good!
And if it is good it is again you!
You You You!

Re: I need help 17 Apr 2013 21:33 #205362

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Now after about 4 weeks clean i am still thinking about the next step, i didn't have a chance to come up with something final

my last fall happened because i was in the mood to see something bad. i had a problem with my thaphsic method, so i said i am just browsing o the internet which is not specified in my thaphsic method as a problem, and of course it didn't take long till I saw wrong things and of course i looked away right away. but the image went in to my head and it started burning till i acted out ofter about 4 days latter on this.

since then i didn't fall but i went already browsing, i see this a a big danger.

any suggestions buddies?

Thank you in advance
Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it
If it is good it is you!
And if looks not good it is also you!
If it is you it is Good!
And if it is good it is again you!
You You You!

Re: I need help 17 Apr 2013 22:11 #205371

If you're a taphsic method user, then perhaps, "just browsing the internet" should be included as off limits.

MT

Re: I need help 18 Apr 2013 17:19 #205428

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If Taphsic is working for you, great!

But I suspect that for those whom it is not working, the Taphsic method is perpetuating and focusing the person even further on the problem. That is probably ossur. I just posted in two places about the idea, http://guardyoureyes.com/forum/1-Break-Free/137177-I-need-help-please?limit=15&start=150#205426 and http://guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-Wall-of-Honor/68665-Funny-walk-to-90-by-Yehoshua?limit=15&start=390#205420.

I am not suggesting that anyone quit Taphsic! Just saying that if it is not working for you, it may not be for you and why that may be so. Perhaps this will light up a new path for someone out there who is using tools to focus himself even more on the past and the problem - instead of on reality (today) and G-d's Will. It's am issue.

Sadly, too many folks hear "G-d's Will" and immediately jump to say, "Well! G-d's Will for me is obviously mainly that I do not waste sperm, no?" They do not see how doing this enlarges their lust struggle until it eclipses everything else...that is not avodas Hashem, but churban. And it is typical of addicts, too (the minority of people here).

OMG. They are missing the entire point...

Hatzlocha.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: I need help 18 Apr 2013 20:11 #205464

i tried clicking on the links & I got an error msg saying "invalid address"
I need to remember that:
I'm no a bad person; I'm sick.
I'm not A Choteh. I'm A Chole.
It take time & effort to stay sober but it worth it.

Davening to hashem to keep me sober 1 day @ a time since יום ג שבוע של יום-הכיפורים ו תשרי ה'תשע"ד 
10 Sptember 2013

(and to keep this date)

Re: I need help 18 Apr 2013 21:51 #205478

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thank you "machshava tova", you are right, this is a fine line...
Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it
If it is good it is you!
And if looks not good it is also you!
If it is you it is Good!
And if it is good it is again you!
You You You!

Re: I need help 18 Apr 2013 21:54 #205479

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Dov

i tried clicking on the links & I got an error msg saying "invalid address"
Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it
If it is good it is you!
And if looks not good it is also you!
If it is you it is Good!
And if it is good it is again you!
You You You!

Re: I need help 18 Apr 2013 23:08 #205483

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I edited dov's post so the links work:

Dov wrote:
If Taphsic is working for you, great!

But I suspect that for those whom it is not working, the Taphsic method is perpetuating and focusing the person even further on the problem. That is probably ossur. I just posted in two places about the idea,
guardyoureyes.com/forum/1-Break-Free/137177-I-need-help-please?limit=15&start=150#205426 and
guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-Wall-of-Honor/68665-Funny-walk-to-90-by-Yehoshua?limit=15&start=390#205420 .

I am not suggesting that anyone quit Taphsic! Just saying that if it is not working for you, it may not be for you and why that may be so. Perhaps this will light up a new path for someone out there who is using tools to focus himself even more on the past and the problem - instead of on reality (today) and G-d's Will. It's am issue.

Sadly, too many folks hear "G-d's Will" and immediately jump to say, "Well! G-d's Will for me is obviously mainly that I do not waste sperm, no?" They do not see how doing this enlarges their lust struggle until it eclipses everything else...that is not avodas Hashem, but churban. And it is typical of addicts, too (the minority of people here).

OMG. They are missing the entire point...

Hatzlocha.
Last Edit: 18 Apr 2013 23:10 by gibbor120.

Re: I need help 18 Apr 2013 23:49 #205491

Thanx
I need to remember that:
I'm no a bad person; I'm sick.
I'm not A Choteh. I'm A Chole.
It take time & effort to stay sober but it worth it.

Davening to hashem to keep me sober 1 day @ a time since יום ג שבוע של יום-הכיפורים ו תשרי ה'תשע"ד 
10 Sptember 2013

(and to keep this date)

Re: I need help 18 Apr 2013 23:56 #205495

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Thanx!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: I need help 24 Apr 2013 22:54 #205905

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i had a fall after 35 days thru the internet, thinking about next step
Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it
If it is good it is you!
And if looks not good it is also you!
If it is you it is Good!
And if it is good it is again you!
You You You!

Re: I need help 24 Apr 2013 23:01 #205908

Aouch! That Hurt!
I need to remember that:
I'm no a bad person; I'm sick.
I'm not A Choteh. I'm A Chole.
It take time & effort to stay sober but it worth it.

Davening to hashem to keep me sober 1 day @ a time since יום ג שבוע של יום-הכיפורים ו תשרי ה'תשע"ד 
10 Sptember 2013

(and to keep this date)

Re: I need help 24 Apr 2013 23:21 #205911

Sorry about that. Getting up after a fall is very choshuv in shomayim. Besides, what other choice do we have?

אַל תִּשְׂמְחִי איַבְתִּי לִי
כִּי נָפַלְתִּי קָמְתִּי
כִּי אֵשֵׁב בַּחֹשֶׁךְ ה' אוֹר לִי: מיכה ז-ח

Hatzlacha

MT

Re: I need help 25 Apr 2013 21:26 #205978

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i had just updated my thaphsic method, so i should not be allowed to go browsing with no purpose
hashem help
Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it
If it is good it is you!
And if looks not good it is also you!
If it is you it is Good!
And if it is good it is again you!
You You You!
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