everyone who follow some of my post know i'm very un-pshycological

i want to break the trend and aska question

is it addiction

or an unsatiable self love??

go ahead lets start the conversation

Can we say it starts as one and develops into another?
ANd l'mai nafka mina? (i have a guess but you tell us)

bardichev wrote on 19 Aug 2011 20:08:


self love?
no self-loving person gets themselves into a situation they know they'll regret in 5 minutes and which will cause them untold amounts of suffering.
Brainlessness, low self esteem, I think those are better descriptions. And yes, addiction.

Self-centeredness -most certainly.

Bards... Y u asking? Wats the dif....

i am fascinated by the whole narcisism thingy

Just my 2 cents from my own little warped corner...

I could not develop a relationship with anyone so I had only myself to turn to for love. I used images of others as surrogates in my mind since I am incapable of opening up to anyone in real life to that extent. (The exception is my wife, I was shocked at how quickly and easily we "connected" when we first spoke. Everyone that knew me said that they could see the change in me after the first time I went out with her, even I didn't realize it was that obvious)

But as far as having any kind of deep friendship with my peers, I have never been able to do it. I have had good friends, but they were all friends of convenience, we were roommates, neghbors etc. Then we went our own ways and didn't keep up with each other. IRL nothing ever developed int any kind of real inappropriate relationship B"H. And I was left with just my imaginary friends to love in my mind, and to fantasize about in ways so sick i will not describe. So that was really just self-love because I was not really loving someone else, just using my imagining of them for my own pleasure. Loving someone else means giving, and while I could imagine that I was giving, there was nobody there to receive, so it's really just taking.

Addiction come later, from repeatedly acting this way and getting so used to it that your body will literally not let you stop.

HEILIGER BARDITICHEVER!


hey bards you'd better watch out when DOV sees this
self love / self shmuv IT'S AN ADDICTION, holy brother

rebbe b, threads like this make me say hmmmmm and bolt for the safety of the cholint thread

maybe it's the combination of narcissism and the antithesis  of narcissism

ZemirosShabbos wrote on 22 Aug 2011 17:12:
im with zemmy aint nuthn that banishes teh addict in me like when i se some sharp comment about possums and woodford on the chulent thread. If only al those adicts of rpevious generations woulda known...

I will answer mt own question

*hakdama*

I'm no psychologist


Narcissism is self love to enth degree

To the degree of sickness

Now let's talk LUMDISH

If (mit dee gemarra finger) a person really lovved themselves

They would not harm themselves

Oib azoi

Narcissism is aza krankite

Like the person who sttarves themselves to death to "look good"

The lust addict

On a very simple level is a narcissist

Ok I give uip

I'm no sykolojist



Az zemmmy zzayz

Let's beat the yh

With possums elk and cholint



EVen al!!!!!!!!!

I'm not yet a psychologist though I do study it and I'm no sure it's either. More addiction than narcisism though.  It does fit many of the characteristics of addiction but you have yo be careful since the level Jews hold themselves to is much higher than the secular level of normal. Hence we may not clinical addictions but may benefit from treating them as such. Just my own two cents and I am biased.

thinking about making a Narcissism-therapy cholint recipe

bardichev wrote on 24 Aug 2011 04:54:

is that rock-on? isn't that a band?