Nebula,

I sent you a PM, please let me know that you read it.

Gevura!

the part i hate about being half asleep and in the mood is i wake up and continue acting out any ideas?

Back on Track wrote on 21 Aug 2011 23:26:

Yes it surprises me too, what sometimes do, thanks for the good wishes.

tryhard wrote on 25 Aug 2011 08:17:

I don't really have any that have worked for me all the time but the method with the most success that I have had, is when I have managed to convince myself that the temporary pleasure that I will get by finishing, is completely overshadowed by the lasting feeling of pleasure of knowing that I stopped myself and having a guilt free day ahead. That is worth much more to me than the feeling that I get. The challenge with this method is managing to convince yourself of this fact in the moment, while still groggy and all.

I have the same problem. Actually I'm probably worse off then you. I'm not going to go into details, but basically I'm struggling with the same issue to a higher degree and with less will power (I can barely go 3 days let alone 10)    So just know you're definitely not alone.

thanks but convincing doesnt really work with me when half asleep. any other ideas?

tryhard wrote on 30 Aug 2011 22:05:

This one is rather extreme, but go you asked for it. Get a pair of pants that can take a belt, like formal shabbos/suit pants, and use those as pyjama pants, with atshirt or whatever. Then sleep with those pants on, and maybe even over your thin pyjama type pants. That way there is an additional step before you can start. This hopefully will take you into the realm of 3/4 awake 1/4 asleep, and then try the convincing as stated above.
Also a regular exercise plan of jogging will help so much because it will tire you out and keep you in REM sleep or beta wave sleep or whatever its called for longer, thus limiting the influence that your physical body has over you while asleep.
Thirdly, go to sleep at the same time every night, including weekends, and get up at the same time.
Fourth, no movies or tv shows, because they are very processing intensive just to keep up with the storyline and that causes you to think about them while asleep, and you know that it is just 1 step away from thinking about tv while in bed, to thinking about that person in the show, to that one scene where that thing happened, it was so romantic, and it spirals from there, and you usually only tune in to this thought chain, in your half asleep state around here, and that hasn't ended well so far.

Fifth, post your progress over here with the above steps and we will give you your dose of chizuk [*We will right?! Forum!*]

nebula this true it will wake you up but you still arnt thinking fully so you take away those precautions

tryhard wrote on 20 Sep 2011 20:36:

Right, this is very difficult and may even seem impossible at times but what about number 4? Have you tried cutting out/ minimising tv movies magazines etc to reduce the amount of thoughts that do occur. if this is too hard then have you tried to not only cut these activities out of your day but also replace them with better activities, such as exercise, researching stuff that interests you etc. Also how is the exercise thing going? There is no denying that it can help immensely with the whole half asleep struggle.
Also have you tried posting your progress on gye, either this board or your own?

Ok Guys a thanks to Gevura Shebyesod for linikng me to this thread.

Any ideas for when waking up in middle of the night when one is groggy and brain fried???

If you're so groggy and half-asleep that you really don't fully have control over what you're doing, then it's almost like a "wet dream". Maybe better not to obsess about that while you're awake and instead work on your daytime thoughts and actions.

KOMT!!

are we talking that we can't fall back asleep? because that would be the option i would choose, just go back to sleep.

Shlomo,

Correct. I can't fall back asleep yet too tired to think straight. So my brain is fried and I am twisting and turning.

maybe try to calm down, have a tea, read a book, take some melatonin my father always said, "if you can't fall asleep, learn, you'll fall asleep right away" also i have convos with god when i can't fall asleep, it's the perfect time for it

Other night I woke up in middle of the night and began to initiate with my wife. She slapped me and said, "what's wrong with you? You're almost 60 and we just did it an hour and a half ago?" I didn't remember a thing.

Trouble wrote on 10 May 2017 04:36:

I've had similar experiences.