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25 Jun 2017 19:52

bear

Welcome.
Feel alot of what you wrote.
Hatzlacha
Category: Introduce Yourself
25 Jun 2017 19:45

360gye

Welcome,
You have made the right choice coming here for help. GYE has many tools to help, and everyone is here to help.
Feel free to reach out when in need
-360gye
Category: Introduce Yourself
25 Jun 2017 19:40

lomed

Hi welcome Aboard!

You have come to the right place. Here on this site many have found a solution to our common problem. For me this site was a life savor. Coming here for me was the beginning of a lifetime journey that i have started. I have been trudging the road here since then and had much success, and loo forward one day at a time to keep on growing.

​We are all here for the same reason, with some slight different symptoms.  With Hashems help I wish you to find what you are looking for.

Lomed
Category: Introduce Yourself
25 Jun 2017 19:34

MayanHamisgaber

Welcome

thanks for the share

What have you tried so far?
Category: Introduce Yourself
25 Jun 2017 19:31

lovealways

i just need help im 25 and masturbated since bar mitzvah first time was i think cld be even before it. i cant get over beautiful and charming girls and women. iv watched and looked at porn throughout all the years
Category: Introduce Yourself
25 Jun 2017 04:11

Aaronhopeful@gye.com

Distract yourself. Learning Torah is the best way! Learn Torah everyday with daf yomi. Also teach your kids Torah. It will be fun and healthy and benefitable. It will help you to get closer to HaShem and it would be pleasing to see your kids grow with HaShem's Torah. Good luck bro. Hatzlacha!
Category: What Works for Me
23 Jun 2017 09:36

GrowStrong

mikestruggling wrote on 23 Jun 2017 06:07:
to say that "it works because Hashem wants it to work" is 100% correct
however if i asked you how cars work the same statement would  be correct. now imagine some guy in the 1800s is a tinkerer and he made this massive 20 foot by 20 foot machine thats 30 feet tall full with pipes tubes wires some gears etc. it requires petroleum water banana peels and some black pepper to run the machine. the final product can move by itself 7 mph that would be impressive no? now imagine the world would've said "we found it the horseless carriage" how does it work "Hashem wants it to work" we wont look into it. if that were the case we never would've been where we are today.
that is not exactly  but similar to what the founders of AA did.a bunch of guess work and voila! it works! oh it has spirituality let's call that G-d (after all we have no shaychess to real spirituality).
i'd like to reiterate IT DOES INDEED WORK so if you or anyone truly wants to stop go for it (or any of the 20 tools (for you cordz)) and the gedoilim are for it so there is no chashash avoida zara vchulu. so if you decline to go to SA because of what i'm writing (and you have nothing better ayin ha'ara l'el) then first of all you are only hurting yourself additionally deep down you may not really want to stop 
having said that why should we yidden be happy with what the program sets forth we DO have shaychess to real spirituality we should be able to design a much more effective and efficient version
i am nowhere near proficient enough in  machshava to take achrayis but i am gifted with  a good head and i have some ideas i'm here to get your feedback if i knew everything i'd put out a book (of course with a good editor look at my punctuation?) and maybe make millions
have an awesome day

Have you read this thread yet?
This
Baruch became a big bokky in SA once he got past all the other stuff
other than calling each step by its Torah version I don't see any crazy way of reinventing the wheel...
emuna, bitachon, bittul, cheshbon hanefesh, selichot, ratzon, hitbodedut, gemilat chasadim, what's the common thread between them all asides from them each being steps.
they all appear repeatedly throughout mussar and chassidus. So we are blessed with references from the Torah for everything 
It just means once we get it it should be a strong healthy truthful honest recovery.

by the way brother you are thinking too much 
it was already mentioned here i am mentioning it again
I recognize it because it's one of my addictions 
Category: Break Free
22 Jun 2017 21:57

GrowStrong

Shteeble wrote on 22 Jun 2017 19:03:

Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 22 Jun 2017 17:29:
It works because it's not so much about who/what the higher power is, as much as it is about the fact that it is someone/something other than ourselves. 

and for the record

Any sober amongst them are sober only because Hashem wills it to be that way.



Hashem loves the yidden like a person loves his own children.
Hashem loves the goyem like a person loves his car.


For the record I had the schut many years ago to go to one of Rav Shimshon's couple shabbosim and he was one of my heroes in Torah.
I dont think he was talking about recovered addicts who give their lives and will over to the creator of the universe how they understand Him.
Because those people are just as precious in Hashems Eyes, and just as much His children. 
Hashem has enough love for everyone who reaches out to Him.
And Hashem knows when someone says Yoshke if they are referring to Him or not.
Its not our place to read into their minds.
I have found less conflict with this whole discussion through having a mind focused on the Geula.
When we get to geula, The yidden will be the cohanim and the goyim will be the yidden, for Hashem will not be hidden like he was before, and ALL those that seeked Him will be a part of that. 
So maybe the alcoholics who find God and recovery are sparks of the geula just like the children of the Elef Shviit are sparks of the geula (see ramchal) 
Rav Taub says that addicts are just more spiritual creatures who need God in their lives all the time. That rings true with the above.
One of my theories is that most of the kids born today to Yidden are neshamot elef shvii... it would be one explanation why it says that having babies now in todays dor is bringing the geula.
But the fact is, that all this is just hyperbole, whats real and important is that we have to approach Hashem and give Him our lives to manage... and what Gevura said is exactly right... and what shteeble in reply that its all Siyatta Dishmaya is also right.
What ISNT siyatta dishmaya?
My recovery for SURE is.
Category: Break Free
22 Jun 2017 20:07

dms1234

Here's my situation, if I sleep well, eat well, running a normal schedule then bh there isn't much of a problem as I'm in control of myself and my thoughts don't even heed that direction


Sounds good but if you realize that you cant control yourself and your thoughts and you keep lusting, viewing, acting out then we can speak of other ways to recover
Category: Introduce Yourself
22 Jun 2017 17:53

Shivisi_Hashem

Dov wrote on 22 Jun 2017 16:17:

breakfreegye wrote on 07 Jun 2017 14:26:
I have really been struggling the past couple of days. I have had trouble sleeping and I am really tired. In addition my wife has been unavailable for a number of weeks following a miscarriage. I dont find myself struggling with desire to look at inappropriate material very often but these conditions are making it very difficult.

Exercise is often great and can help - but it is no solution. Sex w your wife is often great and can help - but it is no solution. Finding things that will distract you is often useful and can help in some limited situations - but it is no solution. Davening is often great and can help - but it is no solution. 

(Earlier this month) Your wife recently had a miscarriage. 

Are you hearing the solution yet?

There is 'an elephant in the room'. Have you gotten closer to her since the miscarriage? How much closer? The closer you get with her, the LESS you will need sex. Love - real love - kills lust. Sexaholics know this, experience it, and it works. Though you are probably not an addict, this path can still work for you and it can start to really solve a great deal of your problem. 

Exercising, davening, distracting yourself...gevalt. Your wife may have just had deep hopes dashed, blood coming out of her where a baby should have, and who knows what fear and sadness are coursing through her for the past few weeks (I do not know her personal state and issues around the miscarriage, but the above is pretty normal, though many women do not admit it especially to men). You may have talked w her a lot - but if the sex is bothering you, that probably means you may not have talked w her enough. Not gotten deep with both of your feelings yet. 

I am not faulting you for having selfish sexual desire, Good L-rd no. I have that plenty of that, too. But the miscarriage is a unique opportunity to get closer instead of running away deeper into your sex-starvedness, and demanding nature that we all suffer with. May Hashem help you, me, and all of us use every one of these opportunities to grasp onto the real solutions to life's problems, the greatest of which is our own ego and neediness. Hatzlocha reaching out to her more than ever before and letting this miscarriage bring you closer and really solve your loneliness that sex screams to fill. It worked for my wife and me when that happened to us. It can work for you, too.

Helpful at all?

- Dov  

Thank you Dov,
very useful post..
Category: Break Free
22 Jun 2017 16:17

Dov

breakfreegye wrote on 07 Jun 2017 14:26:
I have really been struggling the past couple of days. I have had trouble sleeping and I am really tired. In addition my wife has been unavailable for a number of weeks following a miscarriage. I dont find myself struggling with desire to look at inappropriate material very often but these conditions are making it very difficult.

Exercise is often great and can help - but it is no solution. Sex w your wife is often great and can help - but it is no solution. Finding things that will distract you is often useful and can help in some limited situations - but it is no solution. Davening is often great and can help - but it is no solution. 

(Earlier this month) Your wife recently had a miscarriage. 

Are you hearing the solution yet?

There is 'an elephant in the room'. Have you gotten closer to her since the miscarriage? How much closer? The closer you get with her, the LESS you will need sex. Love - real love - kills lust. Sexaholics know this, experience it, and it works. Though you are probably not an addict, this path can still work for you and it can start to really solve a great deal of your problem. 

Exercising, davening, distracting yourself...gevalt. Your wife may have just had deep hopes dashed, blood coming out of her where a baby should have, and who knows what fear and sadness are coursing through her for the past few weeks (I do not know her personal state and issues around the miscarriage, but the above is pretty normal, though many women do not admit it especially to men). You may have talked w her a lot - but if the sex is bothering you, that probably means you may not have talked w her enough. Not gotten deep with both of your feelings yet. 

I am not faulting you for having selfish sexual desire, Good L-rd no. I have that plenty of that, too. But the miscarriage is a unique opportunity to get closer instead of running away deeper into your sex-starvedness, and demanding nature that we all suffer with. May Hashem help you, me, and all of us use every one of these opportunities to grasp onto the real solutions to life's problems, the greatest of which is our own ego and neediness. Hatzlocha reaching out to her more than ever before and letting this miscarriage bring you closer and really solve your loneliness that sex screams to fill. It worked for my wife and me when that happened to us. It can work for you, too.

Helpful at all?

- Dov  
Category: Break Free
22 Jun 2017 15:37

FreeMePlease

This is my third time trying GYE, each time I just forget about it ...on purpose...yetzer hora at work

in the merit of Rabbi Twerski's refua, I signed up again with a determination to keep in the gye system

I have struggled with this addiction since age 9.
Though I have had few stretches of time where I was able to remove myself from this, I always fall back in

I have three amazing kids, and I need to be a mentch to be an example for them of proper middos

I am under a lot of stress currently, regarding parnassah and the future of my kids Jewish education. And  sadly this addiction has now planted itself right at the front of my mind as a source of relief from my stresses of life.

I blame HaShem I blame myself I blame my wife, my kids, everyone in my life for my stresses that gives me a freedom to continue this behavior in secret and free myself of guilt and shame.

My username is a quiet, low, almost inaudible tefilah to HaShem to Freemeplease

 Because I am powerless to change this behavior and I see no other path than to just keep justifying it.
Category: Introduce Yourself
22 Jun 2017 14:52

gibbor120

Hi,
Welcome!  Check out the handbook,  Check out the dov quotes.  Check out the Dr. Sorotskin article on acting out.  (All can be found in my signature).  I think it is pretty common for people to be doing ok for a while, then act out for a while, ...  I did it for a long time.  The frequency and intensity of my acting out slowly kept getting worse and worse.

Keep posting.
Category: Introduce Yourself
22 Jun 2017 04:58

bb0212

Markz, if you're going to mention the 
:pinch: Warning: Spoiler!
out in the open like that, people will find out and possibly give up the anonymity. Please be more careful, we don't want them to know...
Category: Introduce Yourself
22 Jun 2017 04:48

Michael94

Here's my situation, if I sleep well, eat well, running a normal schedule then bh there isn't much of a problem as I'm in control of myself and my thoughts don't even heed that direction it's only when I'm off balance that theres an addition, now if I take the appropriate precautions it's doable, it's only when I don't take the appropriate actions it's when i need MAGOR help; so there's 2 options 1) to daily check in on my addiction and be alert 2) when i see that in a week I'll be off balance then take precaution for that week before and for a week after I put myself back on my regular routine.

The problem that i have with the first approach is that maybe I'm feeding into the addiction, since this is a sickness and I'm taking medication maybe I'll be taking too much.

marks I believe that there are people here who visit gye every third Monday of the month and got the help they need and gye wants to reach out to them.  Could be I'm not like them but lets make sure I'm not like them.
Category: Introduce Yourself
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