Rebbe Reb Dov shlita

U must learn Torah Lshma/for its own sake, cause we all benefit from your wise counsel like the mishna says in the last perek in avos.

Hechyisunee

Noorah

Dear Noorah, it seems that Reb Doiv has made it clear that you can't admit powerlessness until you really FEEL powerlessness.

But that doesn't mean you can't benefit from the program, like you yourself so wisely said... But if the times don't work out for you, don't kill yourself - as long as you are doing good (which you ARE)...

guardureyes wrote on 15 Oct 2009 19:44:


Trust me any normal galactic anthropologist would be disappointed meeting me. At best, I'm just another poshuteh dude on the short bus with all of the rest of us. Besides, the entire Shabbos may not work out for me this time, but I hope to be there motzoei Shabbos and perhaps even sunday...working on it. Bekitzur, don't come to meet me (gevalt!), come to meet yourself. You'll like what you see!  




To be frank, it is only for people serious about their problem and only for folks actually in a recovery fellowship already. Exceptions can be made on a case-by-case basis, of course. Anonymity is absolutely essential and some innocent folks just do not understand how to protect anonymity until it is explained clearly to them. For more about that, see the last two traditions of AA in any AA literature.




a) meet lots of frum yidden who are also in recovery from this thing and happy about it
b) find out what "working the steps" means and find out how that mixes or affects other people's avodas Hashem
c) get a little more comfortable with the idea of actually "going to meetings with these kind of people", make some new friends
   and get comfy with some folks very much like yourself, opening new horizons for yourself with more dedication to your own recovery
d) have a blast and find out that it can be absolutely fantastic to be a frum yid with your disease. Every time I have  
   gone it was special and made a permanent lasting impression on me that jumped my recovery up a few notches, for sure.

Noora,
someone does not have to be an 'addict' to feel powerlessness.
one just has to feel powerless, and feel very not happy about it.

As Dov says, 'lusting' without control is just that, even in small amounts.

I've been following Dov around the forum (and Bardichev too) for months. I've found that I am a changed person. I instantly look away in the street, I feel good about it (as opposed to the old argggh! feeling that I used to have, even when I WOULD look away), and I am happier and doing better than ever.

I honestly am not quite sure what is doing it, but I do know intuitively that it has something to do with Dov's posts. And Bardichevs.

But especially (for me) Dov's. There is something there that just rubs off and resonates with me.

k

DITTO

Maybe we should change their names to Mary?
"Mary had a little lamb.....
....it followed her to school one day"

Thats what happens when I stop posting jokes, right Kutan?

7Up wrote on 19 Oct 2009 21:54:


That was AGES ago

Actually, I've been avoiding Mary like the plague...
ever since I've joined GYE.  :D
And would appreciate it if you would be considerate enough not to bring up the oh-so-distant past  >

;D
kutan

...and lamb tastes too gamey.....

Haven't posted in awhile that my thread has almost been relegated to the last page on the Wall:)

Need to post just to get out of myself, to get rid of some of the uneasiness that I'm feeling lately.
Monday mornings are always difficult for me, the dread of facing the new work week.

I had some (minor) disappointments recently that cause me resentment and anxiety and need to get over it and move on...............yet I'm stuck on it.

In the back of my mind flitted in and out some of the old thought patterns.....started thinking with a little bit of longing about some of the "caves in hell" that I used to frequent.......very scary...........I see that I didn't really change and haven't really forgotten those oh so poisonous URL's .......... and I'm always very close to relapse.......walking the narrow bridge ........the tightrope ........over the deadly, dark and frightening, churning waters.......... Hashem! Hashem!.......have Mercy! ......please don't let me fall.......

Noorah the little

you have to trust in Hashem in all your endeavors till you relax. I know how you feel and I commiserate with you. work on Menuchas Hanefesh by realizing that Hashem recreates the world every second and created you just now in the situation you are in so relax and do what ever is required.

Noorah,
I may be wrong. But I think that another way to look at it is that Baruch Hashem, I still am able to get rewarded for being clean.
If the poison lost its veneer completely, we couldn't expect much reward.
Sort of like not going to McDonalds.
So, its for our benefit.
Der'shreck zich nisht
(eng: don't allow any fright)
k

Dearest Raskbahag and Kutan haTzadik,

Intellectually I agree with u and I'm with you 1000 %, but........my intellect was never the problem!!

Thanks rashkbahag and Reb Kutan Hatzadik for trying to infuse some perspective of gadlus  in Noorah hakutan
;D

Noorah BAmram wrote on 02 Nov 2009 14:30:


Boy, did that make me confused!

;D

Thanks Chevra, for all the support. I am feeling a bit stronger today.

May the Merciful One battle the YH!

Noorah

keep up the good work Noorah

you are an inspiration

keep calm cool and collected

Hashem is with you