Yosef Tikun HaYesod wrote on 26 Jan 2017 12:40:

Maybe the focus is all wrong.

Don't fixate on what/what not is helpful for me.

Ask what will be helpful for othersthrough my actions.

Just an outlying thought. Probably will be rejected flat out.

Sing, I dont follow, surely all we have is what works for us at the end of the day.
And Cords...Isn't control something we all have a problem with?

GrowStrong wrote on 26 Jan 2017 13:00:

Yes we do.

That'sI why I point it out.

Anyone readin' this thread knows good and well that many gave decent suggestions andI said what worked for them. Yosef took some and told us why many others won't work for him.

People still come back and againI and push and question and force and convince and prod and etc.

This entire site has hundreds of suggestions. The only way and I repeat strongly the only way Yosef will get out of this funk is thru himselfI. He can do so many things, and he will find several that works.

And yes, he is hyperventilatin' now and so are several others here.

B'hatzlachah

This last post seems like you agree with my post #304319. 
Do I read that right? 

Like I said 2 days ago, it's not the things you don't know that hurt you, it's the things you know for sure that are just not true.

btw, willingness to do only the things that you decide you want to do is not called willingness.

Look, I know that everyone is trying to help me, and I need the help as well.
But both of these statements are cryptic and I can't figure out either one.

I think we're all cryptic. But I find if you crack the code, you'll gain so much more than if we were just straight-forward.

I've said all this before but you don't seem able to take it in.

i think this is too hard to do on a forum, that's why I think you need the phone calls. You seem to still obsess over finding the quick fix which is why I think you need Duvid Chaim to guide you to grow slowly in this. But you're not willing to really try it (unless you get approval from the newbie who's own thinking caused the mess).

B'seder, I don't take it personally, do whatever you want.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I really wish you all the very best. Behatzlocho. 

Watson wrote on 26 Jan 2017 13:35:

Like:like:

Watson, I know that you really want the best for me.
But you yourself have written several times that the steps to recover
that someone who is addicted needs to take, and the steps to break free
that someone who is getting rid of a very bad habit needs to take, 
are going to be different.
The 12-step phone conferences which slowly go through the big book
are not going to be right for both types of people.
This is not following some newbie's advice. But your own.

And like I mentioned, I will still read sections of the book and may even call in the future.

Yosef Tikun HaYesod wrote on 26 Jan 2017 15:24:

"So there!"

I liked your response a lot better before the edit.
You took out the best part  !
Have a great day!!!

I'm going to a Bar Mitzvah tonight of a COMPLETE stranger (no joke).
And I'm going to love it and snap out of my funk, hear great music, and dance!
The DJ I am VERY likely taking for my son's Bar Mitzvah is playing tonight,
and he invited me to see him perform.
I can't wait. I'm taking my son too. It's going to be awesome!

Doc,

I'm concerned.

Why's that?

knock, knock?
What are you talking about "concerned"?
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BTW, I strongly disagree with cryptic is better. If people don't know what you are talking about,
then it is only frustrating and doesn't help nearly as much as if someone is open and straightforward.
​At least that's how I feel.
A small example: if I thought there was a chance everyone didn't know what BTW means,
I would spell it out the first time I used it.