ramatganinternational wrote on 20 Dec 2010 14:41:


Remember when you first posted all gung ho and everyone was trying to knock you down?

The point was - if you think you "cured yourself", when the Yetzer Hora comes back, you are liable to feel lost/hopeless and give up.
If you always remember that one is never "cured" from the yetzer horah, even though there are easier and harder times, but that with Hashem's help we can always win the battle (my apologies to R' Dov if that is not phrased consistent with how he would have) then when the  challenge is more difficult, you remeber that you can win and just work harder on your program.

kosher, very nice!

I think he is cured. He is just mixed up with a regular taava and a addiction. This site can make normal people think that they are addicts. Dont forget only dead people dont have taavis. Hey ramat maybye for you better not to hang around.
Again i am only saying another tzaad. Only you can know the truth about yourself.

frumer so truth what you say about that there is healthy ppl also here (dont know about ramat gan)

by the way  from the way i wright (koisev) you learn that i am a addict more than ramat gan?
yes? why
frumer im waiting for an answer

Ramat Gan please send me a PM

frumfield,

i cant keep away from this site as its the only place in the world where i can be myself in as much as telling you guys exactly how it is. and yes, im an addict - we all are to some extent. ive cured the root of my problem - free internet access - now im moving onto the 2nd phase which is getting used to it all. its tough and i never knew it would be so tough. but im gonna have to slog away at it and hopefully it'll get better with time.

so to ur suggestion of keeping away from this forum - a resounding no! but i see ur point.

oh and by the way - this forum is all about being truthful - yes about ourselves and im telling you the truth.

ramatganinternational wrote on 21 Dec 2010 15:55:


If as you say you are an addict, then the root of the problem is not "free interent access."  The root of the problem is that we are addicted to lust.  Free internet access is just an outlet where we find expression in the problem.  B"H you have taken the step to cut of that access, a major step in breaking free of an addiction.  It would be a mistake to think of yourself as "cured" as I think you are seeing as you stay away from lust longer.  One thing you may want to consider is a 12-step program which will help you get to the "root of the problem."  Continued hatzlacaha.

ur a jew,

thanks for that! ur right, every man was created with the power to lust - obviousely to be used in the right circumstances. but in this degenerated age of technology, i along with thousands of others have/had resigned to the outlet being the internet.

Yes, i did take a big step in doing what i did and i know that ultimately for ME personally that was the turning point in my life. so in fact - that item of my problem was solved but ur right in saying that i havent cured 'my problem'.

much love

yechezkel

The Y'H takes on various forms (Y'H=Soton=Malach Hamoves+++)
the treatment is lifelong avoiding nisyonos
as well as filling one's life with positive things
mitzvos, torah, simcha....
despite the difficulties we have alot to be makir tov  le'hashem
maybe that is the root for success  TOV L'HODOS!!!

RG

That's where the great simplistic idea of keep on trucking comes is


It makes no difference

All these long winded debates

YH,addiction,lust,ocd,bla bla blaaa

Just don't do the act

Keep on trucking!!!

B

Bard and Gevurah,

thanks alot for your messages. Yes! u are right like you said its a combination of things that assist us from acting out and i agree that there is little benefit in debating the matter.

maybe its a bit like a fellow who is lying on the ground having difficulty breathing. we all know that the best and only solution is oxygen - its a no brainer. but there are many different ways in which the oxygen bottle can make its way to him. by car,by helicopter,by bike etc etc or - by person by form of mouth to mouth - the kiss of life.

of course there's the simple 'just dont do it' solution but getting to that stage takes alot of strength. this strength can be acquired throught the various methods as already discussed above i.e learning,praying etc etc

hope you get what i'm trying to say!

much love

Y

hi all,

just wanted to say that i had an incredible opportunity to something REALLY REALLY bad today. A juicy yetzer horah served on a plate with gold plated cutlery but after lots of self introspection and lots of steely determination i somehow managed to fend it off.

trust me, it took  asuperhuman effort, ive no idea how i did it but bottom line is, i did it.

crazy day - crazy opportunity but best possible result!

much love

Y

kol hakavod! kutgw (keep up the good work)!! go to bardy's pub of london and have a woodford - you deserve it!

wood ford served in UK??

ramatganinternational wrote on 26 Dec 2010 23:31:

gevaldig!