dov wrote on 11 May 2010 18:05:
Chazak wrote on 11 May 2010 04:26:
nowhere to turn wrote on 10 May 2010 02:11:
Sholom Aleichem warriors,
I am a regular 15 yr old yeshiva bochur in a top yeshiva in monsey, but has internet at home. Besides for my own problems with watching my eyes and controlling my hotzoas zera that has been with me for years, i noticed something interesting recently. I have noticed my father, a 55 yr old heimishe guy by the computer late at night. My curiosity got the better of me, and when noone was around, I pressed ctrl H to see history, and found out that my porn problem is inherited from him. I also noticed a secret email address that he has, so i put my hacking skills to work, and got the password from a free keylogging program. What i found was heartbreaking- a bunch of heimishe guys from shul are all a bunch of porn addicts forwarding porn around to each other! So lately i go in and delete all unread inappropriate inbox messages, but i now realize this is just a "moire heter" of my yetzer to do it myself, as my hz"l has been worse lately, so this is no solution for me. How is a 15 yr old yesiva bochur from a good home supposed to deal with this- I cant confront him, and i cant let my mother know about this- she'll divorce him!So before i deal with my own shmiras einayim/bris issues, how do i deal with this without destroying my home????
Can the rov of your shule or someone in your yeshiva consul you?
Finally, with all very due respect to
Chazak: How do you know that the Rov of his shul (or the rebbe in his yeshiva) is
not one of the guys his father is sharing the porn
with? Addicts come in all shapes and sizes, my friend.
Of course, I'm not saying to trust no rabbi/rebbi, c"v. But this problem, like drinking or using drugs, has nothing to do with whether the person is a talmid Chochom, Rov, good man, or whatever. It's a compulsion that goes way beyond bechirah and often has roots that grew long before anyone's gadlus in learning began. So you may want to consider backing off on giving a plumbeh to any man just because he is the rov of your shul. Sorry.
Choose your da'as Torah the best way you can: by
your heart - who do
you really trust - not by a sign on the door. And please consider focusing on your
own recovery so that your children will not have to catch
you one day.
Much love,
Dov
Dear Dov, and Habochur hechoshuv NTT,
Dov, I hardly disagree with you. However, I juat asked this bochur to consider doing these things. He knows these people, and if he feels comfortable speaking to them and trusts them, it could be helpful. There probably is someone either in the yeshiva or the rov who is trusworthy. However, there is no guarantee of this. Many rabbonim are trained at counseling and many yeshivos have such people available. Many do not, So, this bochur, who obviously has a lot of seichel, can read the situation.
Incidentally, a lot of incredibly good advice was posted here for NTT!!!
I have heard Rabbi Viner speak and have contacted him myself. He would be an absolutely
excellent choice, and right there in Monsey!!!!! There are links to one or more of his speeches on this site. Below is one link.
www.hakhel.info/archivesPublicService/RVienerSummer09.mp3