remaininganonymous26 wrote on 03 Aug 2023 22:41:
B'H I am going along well in my journey, and hopefully next week I will hit day 30!
If I can ask everyone for some advice- recently, since I have been more careful with guarding my eyes on the computer, I noticed that watching my eyes on the street has been more difficult. Even when I don't take a "second look," I have short fantasies. Usually, I can stop them quickly, but I still feel guilty. This is probably normal for what I am going through, but does anyone have any advice or chizuk? Thank you!
Mazal Tov on being close to a special milestone of 30! Chazak ViAmatz, that is major!
Many people here have written about experiencing the same thing. we become so much more sensitive to inadvertent exposures, and they trigger us more. It seems to be a sign that you are on the right path!! It will get easier, imyH.
The simple explanation, I think, is that you are becoming more sensitive to what you see. After denying yourself the kind of exposure online that you had become accustomed to, your brain is feeling (
temporarily) a greater urge to get the dopamine rush it had become accustomed to. Withdrawal. And as you work and focus on not giving in, on avoiding those experiences, you will experience greater sensitivity to them. They mean more, and have a lot associated with the experience.
On a deeper level -
A rebbe of mine once told me a very profound thought in the name of one of the great Mashgichim:
"If you squeeze the top of a balloon, the top gets smaller, but the bottom will swell up bigger. The trick is to undo the knot and let a little air out of the balloon at a time. [But not enough that it flies out of your hand and zooms around the room like crazy- my addition]"
When we have developed a desire and need for a negative experience, merely stopping the negative
actions will not yet suffice to effect the internal and complete change we are working towards. So internally we still want it, and that drive may come out in a different place.
Merely holding off and counting days doesn't necessarily do it.
We need to figure out how to "let the air out of the balloon". To make change!
There was a great post from Dov and Cordnoy about this a while ago
see here
Not sure if I can paste it right
The first part is Dov
Second is cordnoy, I think.
My comment about how I understood it is last
chaimoigen wrote on 30 Jun 2023 13:16:
'Holding our breath' is a totally different experience than recovery offers. This story illustrates what 'holding breath' is:
The Steipler zt"l was once on guard duty in the Russian or Polish army on Shabbos - and his coat was in a tree, so it would be assur for him to take it down and use it! He decided to stay in place the entire shift without his coat. But it was terribly cold and driving him nuts. How could he stay put?!
He told himself that he could withstand the cold for just a minute (or hour?)...and he did! When that minute was over, he told himself that he just proved that he can tolerate the bitter cold for just a minute. So here before him is: a minute! He then waited a(nother) minute. When it was over, he thought: here before me is another one of those minute-thingies. I can definitely hang on just a minute! So he held on, and tolerated the cold for just a minute.
Etc, etc, and the entire night passed! Amazing. Beautiful.
AND THAT IS NOT AT ALL WHAT 'ONE DAY AT A TIME', MEANS! For what the Steipler did was a gimmick. A mind game. And it worked for him, for one night or day...it may work for more than one day - it may even work for a lifetime, who knows? And if I could stay sober that way for a lifetime, I would probably not take it. It would be gehinnom, would keep me good-and-miserable/crazy, and would generally...suck. I would surely eventually run to lust again just to get out of such a stupid (but kosher!) life. Yup.
But: the Steipler could not have actually held his breath all night using this gimmick. Correct? After a few minutes (about 2-3), a human knows he must breathe, period. So what would you do if someone told you he would give you a million (yep, a million!) bucks if you held your breath for two hours? Would you breath deeply and go give it a try? Silly, of course not. Why suffer for no reason and nothing in the end, anyway?
People who are not sincerely giving up lust for today are just sitting ducks. They are just holding their breath and 'holding back' one day at a time. It does not work. Eventually they will have to breathe. And Hashem knows this. It is a twisting of the meaning of 'one day at a time'.
I know they will say 'vatishlach es amosoh - she sent forth her arm' and all the sweet, encouraging droshos on that. But for an addict, it just does not work here! And in the meantime, the marriage and family are brutalized. Yuch.
[A nasty little digression :pinch:
When B'nei Yisroel (on Rosh chodesh Nissan) went to take the korban Pesach (in four more days!) Hashem writes: "
[i]The point is clear and resonates deeply. I had never "gotten" it before.
Where were we?
It's truly amazin' that my conversation with Dov today and one we had ten years ago are so similar. Read the follow up posts as well.
End of the nasty little digression. ]
But I doubt that such things will work for most people in the long run - and certainly not for addicts. For when the day comes that they desire it again as strong as ever, they will be 100% convinced again that they can't live without it, period. Back to square one. But surrender one day at a time really does work for alcoholics and others, all over the world.
Surprise!
There is one exception to this idea, and it is an important qualification: There are surely some who do the TapHsiC, or 90-day wall thingy, or counting the days, etc...holding their breath all the way - and it works! Because they did experience abstinence from their prize, after all, and did not die. Amazingly, their penises did not fall off. And abstinence sometimes makes it clear to the person that he does not, in fact, really need it at all!
Therefore, only giving it up in our hearts one day at a time is useful and bears fruit, and that is the 12 step program way - not resisting 'one day at a time'. Get it?
I believe this is true for most ppl who take lots of half-measures and just 'fight it' (but see the exception below).
Sadly, the converse is also true. We all know in our hearts that we cannot hold our breath forever. So, as inspired as we may be to hold our breath and resist getting that sweet orgasm/fantasy/porn joy we need...we are full-aware that we are eventually gonna pop. We have not given it up at all, see it as an eventual necessity, and a masculine right. The only guarantee, then, is that we will need to act out when the maximum tolerance of # days clean is reached. So it is almost as though they are already masturbating, in some respect. By the Korban pesach it means they are given over to G-d and committed to doing His Will - and by lust, it means they are given over to lust and committed to doing nothing real about stopping. So what's the use? May Hashem save me from making this mistake and being in that category, one day at a time.
And Bn"Y went and did as Moshe commanded them." Rashi brings that they went with the intention, knowing that come the 10th of Nissan, they'd take the goat/lamb, and come the 14th, they'd shecht it, etc. In their hearts, it was a done deal. So from right then, Hashem says He considers it that they already did it all!.
Thank you, This point is very clear and responates deeply.
I have never "gotten this" before. I have always only appreciated the value of reducing the struggle to "not today", on a superficial level. Therefore the idea has never fully resonated with me as a fundamental method of healing in and of itself. Because I have always felt that change can't just be about pure behaviour, it also has to be about actually changing. Becoming different. Replacing the hole in your heart and the things that fill it with changes that matter - with new awareness, a new path, new ways of feeling filled and fulfilled, new awareness of Hashem, purpose, etc, etc. So pushing off the fall for a day, and then another, doesn't really create healing, as Dov is saying. That's why I never loved the idea. [The nasty digression is spot-on, and hurts.]
Now I think I understand the idea much better. "One Day At A Time" is about real change. But I can reduce the genuine change necessary into day-sized segments. Then it is so much easier to do the work. I can really want to change, to be different, at least for today. If those real changes are being made for today, for now, I can hold on to them. I will then deal tomorrow with holding on to the changes, tomorrow, I will work on being different tomorrow, tomorrow.
I feel the truth in this, I think {and there are divrei Chazal that reflect it} . Thank you