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Guilt 06 Feb 2022 12:58 #376891

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Hi!

I haven't seen much in this topic and I wanted some guidance.

I have about a fifteen year history of struggling with zera levatolo. There were times where I was properly addicted and times where I came "out" of it but fell occasionally. 

Bh I have been totally clean for quite a bit of time (6months-a year) although I struggle with shmiras einayim like everyone else. 

Whilst I'm in general very happy with myself I cannot get rid of the guilt of my past. I'm constantly thinking that whatever I do is not really worth it because I'm going to go to hell for all those aveiros. I'm desperate to speak to a gadol for practical advice for how to be מכפר for those aveiros but never find the opportunity. This really weighs me down no matter how well in doing. I feel like it's one of those עבירות  that one can't be מכפר for... Does anyone else share these struggles?

I really find it hard to grow and shteig with all this guilt shooting on my head...

Pls pls help!

Re: Guilt 06 Feb 2022 13:44 #376893

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Torah22 wrote on 06 Feb 2022 12:58:
Hi!

I haven't seen much in this topic and I wanted some guidance.

I have about a fifteen year history of struggling with zera levatolo. There were times where I was properly addicted and times where I came "out" of it but fell occasionally. 

Bh I have been totally clean for quite a bit of time (6months-a year) although I struggle with shmiras einayim like everyone else. 

Whilst I'm in general very happy with myself I cannot get rid of the guilt of my past. I'm constantly thinking that whatever I do is not really worth it because I'm going to go to hell for all those aveiros. I'm desperate to speak to a gadol for practical advice for how to be מכפר for those aveiros but never find the opportunity. This really weighs me down no matter how well in doing. I feel like it's one of those עבירות  that one can't be מכפר for... Does anyone else share these struggles?

I really find it hard to grow and shteig with all this guilt shooting on my head...

Pls pls help!

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Re: Guilt 06 Feb 2022 14:09 #376896

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Torah22 wrote on 06 Feb 2022 12:58:
Hi!

I haven't seen much in this topic and I wanted some guidance.

I have about a fifteen year history of struggling with zera levatolo. There were times where I was properly addicted and times where I came "out" of it but fell occasionally. 

Bh I have been totally clean for quite a bit of time (6months-a year) although I struggle with shmiras einayim like everyone else. 

Whilst I'm in general very happy with myself I cannot get rid of the guilt of my past. I'm constantly thinking that whatever I do is not really worth it because I'm going to go to hell for all those aveiros. I'm desperate to speak to a gadol for practical advice for how to be מכפר for those aveiros but never find the opportunity. This really weighs me down no matter how well in doing. I feel like it's one of those עבירות  that one can't be מכפר for... Does anyone else share these struggles?

I really find it hard to grow and shteig with all this guilt shooting on my head...

Pls pls help!

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Re: Guilt 06 Feb 2022 14:26 #376898

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Torah22 wrote on 06 Feb 2022 12:58:
I feel like it's one of those עבירות  that one can't be מכפר for...


Welcome. Many of us relate to what you've posted. I just want to point out that the line I have copied above from your post is your yetzer hara deceiving you. You absolutely can do tshuva on this aveira. I have never seen any source in Chazal that on this aveira one cannot do tshuva. I recommend trying to realize that you certainly can do tshuva for this aveira even though it is difficult. We are cheering for you, support you, and are here for you. May Hashem help you.
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Re: Guilt 06 Feb 2022 15:16 #376901

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Torah22 wrote on 06 Feb 2022 12:58:
Hi!

I haven't seen much in this topic and I wanted some guidance.

I have about a fifteen year history of struggling with zera levatolo. There were times where I was properly addicted and times where I came "out" of it but fell occasionally. 

Bh I have been totally clean for quite a bit of time (6months-a year) although I struggle with shmiras einayim like everyone else. 

Whilst I'm in general very happy with myself I cannot get rid of the guilt of my past. I'm constantly thinking that whatever I do is not really worth it because I'm going to go to hell for all those aveiros. I'm desperate to speak to a gadol for practical advice for how to be מכפר for those aveiros but never find the opportunity. This really weighs me down no matter how well in doing. I feel like it's one of those עבירות  that one can't be מכפר for... Does anyone else share these struggles?

I really find it hard to grow and shteig with all this guilt shooting on my head...

Pls pls help!

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Re: Guilt 06 Feb 2022 17:07 #376908

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Torah22 wrote on 06 Feb 2022 12:58:
Hi!


Whilst I'm in general very happy with myself I cannot get rid of the guilt of my past. I'm constantly thinking that whatever I do is not really worth it because I'm going to go to hell for all those aveiros. I'm desperate to speak to a gadol for practical advice for how to be מכפר for those aveiros but never find the opportunity. This really weighs me down no matter how well in doing. I feel like it's one of those עבירות  that one can't be מכפר for... Does anyone else share these struggles?



The Steipler z"l in his sefer Kereina D'igrasa Vol 1 has a section of amazing chizzuk on the topic of Kedusha...

Here are some points that are very important to internalize 
 Even if you fall often, don't underestimate the tremendous zechus of each success. If one succeeds in overcoming his burning desire, the amount of holiness that he brings upon himself and the spiritual words is tremendous, like Yosef Hatzadik. It also repairs much of the spiritual damage caused by previous falls. Over time, he'll be able to undo all the spiritual damage he has caused (1:106, 1:107).

 The main tikun is learning Torah, especially when you aren't enjoying it (e.g. doing chazara, or pushing yourself to learn very deeply), and you are only learning because it's a mitzvah. Bottom line: If you toil in learning, you'll certainly have a complete tikun. (1:106)

 When your desire is burning, think about the tremendous zechus you'll get by overcoming it. (1:106)

הספרים הקדושים מתוך כוונה לעצור בעד החוטא כתבו בביאור עצום איך שע״י זה נחטפים ר״ל זכויותיו [היינו כנ"ל לא עצם זכיותיו אל ההשפעה כנ"ל] וקיצרו לבאר צד השני דהיינו אע״פ שכמה פעמים נכשל ר״ל מ״מ אם לעומת זה הרבה פעמים מנצח ומתגבר על התאווה אז באותו פעם שמתגבר על התאווה הבוערת בו באופן נורא הרי הוא ממשיך אור הקדושה על עצמו ועל העולמות באופן קדוש מאוד מאוד, וחלק גדול מאוד מהניצוצות הקדושות [מה שנחטף השפע להס“א] הרי הוא מוציאם ומחזירם
לקדושה ואין לשער גודל רוממות קדושת זה האדם הכובש את תאוותו בזמן תוקפו והוא אז בבחינת יוסף הצדיק. והכלל אדם שיש לו מלחמת היצר ופעמים מנצח פעמים נכשל הרי כמו שהחטא נורא ואיום, לעומתו [ע״י שמנצח הרבה פעמים] זכותו הוא נורא ואיום מאד ויזכה עי״ז לתקן בחייו את מה שפגם ולהחזיר לצד הקדושה כל הניצוצות הקדושות שנעשקו ע״י עוונותיו ר״ל 
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Re: Guilt 07 Feb 2022 00:20 #376927

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Thanks I will def take a listen

Re: Guilt 07 Feb 2022 00:21 #376928

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Thanks. I feel like it's one of those aveiros that areאין לו חלק לעולם הבא. Is that not true?

Re: Guilt 07 Feb 2022 00:23 #376930

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Thanks. How did you find this? Is there anywhere this can be seen?

Re: Guilt 07 Feb 2022 01:03 #376934

You can read all of the Steipler's letters here:
wiki.guardyoureyes.com/The_Steipler

See also here for more:
wiki.guardyoureyes.com/General_Chizuk_and_Hashkafah_for_a_Bachur_Struggling_in_Inyanei_Kedushah

See also Tanya Ch. 7:אך החיות שבטפות זרע שיצאו ממנו לבטלה אף שירדה ונכללה בשלש קליפות הטמאות הרי זו עולה משם בתשובה נכונה ובכוונה עצומה בקריאת שמע שעל המטה כנודע מהאר"י ז"ל ומרומז בגמרא כל הקורא קריאת שמע על מטתו כאלו אוחז חרב של שתי פיות כו' להרוג גופות החיצונים שנעשו לבוש לחיות שבטפות ועולה החיות מהם כידוע לי"ח.​

See also wiki.guardyoureyes.com/Kesser_Rosh for quotes from R' Chaim of Volozhin. On that page, there's also a quote from the Shevet Mussar:

בספר הזוהר משמע שאין תיקון לזרע לבטלה אך אמנם עיין לוחות הברית התיקון שנתןוגם דקדקו מלשון הזוהראלו החסידים המחמירים לומר אין תיקון לזרע לבטלה כאשר שמעתי מפיהם הם המרבים פושעים בישראל ומרחקים לבני אדם מתחת כנפי השכינהשכל מי שיש בו עון זה ושומע מפיהם שאין לו תקנה הולך ועושה מה שלבו חפץ באומרו וכאשר אבדתי אבדתי ואלו הגורמים כך אינן חסידים כי אם חסרים וענשם כבד משלהם שהדחו נפשות מהקדושה ונתנום מנחה לצד התמורות
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Re: Guilt 07 Feb 2022 01:04 #376935

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Torah22 wrote on 07 Feb 2022 00:21:
Thanks. I feel like it's one of those aveiros that areאין לו חלק לעולם הבא. Is that not true?

No, there is no makor for that. The poskim argue whether it's even an issur min hatorah since it's only merumez from the story of er veonen and doesn't have a beferiush pasuk.
(And also look at Rabbeinu Yona's Shaarei Teshuva Shaar 3: 171; that the aveiros which one has no chelek is only if he doesn't do teshuva [https://www.sefaria.org/Shaarei_Teshuvah.3.171?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en])
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