MayanHamisgaber wrote on 26 Jun 2017 11:23:

If you can please explain what you're trying to say?
Pretty sure that was a sarcastic response - Not at all meant to be taken literally.
If someone can give advice to to this dilemma that I have sometimes I feel the urge to watch porn, so I struggle with it and hange out there for a couple of hours it starts with watching utube videos of different singers then it goes down slide eventually bringing me to watch porn and m** now when I actually m** I right away feel disgust and stop watching (which makes me think that my nisayon is to m**) but then it's too late, so i go to learn, work, daven, eat and come back to some more porn, now if at the start of my struggle when I start watching those utube clips I'll just m** maybe I won't end up watching p**
so should i m** and hopefully it will prevent me from going further? But that worries me since I don't have an issue with m** on its own so if I start doing that maybe I'll start a new addiction which i had issues in the past with but I got rid of?
Currently, masturbating makes you feel guilty because of whatever different reasons you have. However, if you start permitting yourself to masturbate as part of the cure, chances are you won't feel so bad about it. After all, it's for the long term goal. That can backfire and bring on new habits/addictions. Besides all of the above, from what I understand, masturbating actually increases your desire (perhaps not immediately after, but in the short term future). Ask people who have been clean for a while if they agree. It's much easier for me now than it was when I first stopped.
 In either case, I'll let you know what I did, which is somewhat similar to what you're proposing - but not entirely the same. My issues were viewing porn to masturbation. When I first started a clean streak, I didn't want to take on too much at once, do the only thing I committed to was to refrain from ejaculating. Meaning porn was ok, touching, etc was ok as long as I didn't finish. I started using porn as my fix instead of masturbation (for all those who can't understand how that makes sense, trust me, it did the trick for me). Because I was holding back from mz"l, I felt like that was all that I'm working on, porn is completely permitted for me (at that time), all while knowing that in fact, it was assur. But my justification was basically the end justifies the means. Perhaps it does, and my method definitely worked for me - eventually. However, before that, I actually went further down the porn road than I had ever gone in my life. B"H I was eventually at a point where I felt like I could take on more, along with encouragement from the awesome family over here and am working on much more than just masturbation and porn.
now I got another dilemma: I don't watch movies i have a thought that tells me that if i start watching movies I'll be able to get rid of my addiction (in the past it prevented me from watching porn) however if i do so it will change the way I view life in a couple of areas?
All I  want to add here, is that while I didn't work on everything at once, (and therefore "allowed"myself to view porn,) my plan didn't officially include taking one step back to take two steps forward. I was already looking at porn, I just wasn't stopping that. If you're adding movies to your repertoire, that may damage you more than it'll help.

Michael and bb, your conversation is very interesting and your points have merit. I would humbly suggest that you involve a competent Rav or a mental health professional who consults with a Rav to help guide you. It is very admirable that you have seen success long term, but to independently decide that the end justifies the means is risky. There are occasions where rabbonim permit things like this but each case is judged individually. Continued hatzlocha!

You are brave and courageous and will iyh have a lucky wife!