Sorry it took me a bit to find the time to write you.
So, off the bat, kudos on your honesty.
Of course it hurts. "A little" is probably an understatement, but no pain no gain, and this particular pain is liberating, won't you agree?
It really doesn't matter whether we act out by ourselves to images, or with other people, or whether our "high" comes from "mere" interacting with loose girls and sex workers.
The disease is progressive and eventually fatal. Nobody with this addiction finds himself in the same place ten years later. We all get worse, our acting out becomes more risky and more destructive.
So as long as we are honest as to what it is exactly our "bottom" behavior, and we are honest in admitting that it is a disease, and we honestly work to put the disease into remission, we stand the chance to look 15 years back (like Dov) and say:"wow, I have not acted out my compulsions in 15 years. Thank G-d!"
Because the compulsions will always be there, I understand, and it will almost always will seem like a good idea to go to a strip club or to hook up with someone online. But what dilligent recovery work offers us is an ability to surrender the obsession and take it out of our heads, and let it hang dry, and surely not to take it into the shower with us, or to the computer and telephone. Which is why I found it very important that you wrote this:
Avraham613 wrote on 26 Jul 2012 03:16:
To sum it up, it hasn't necessarily been masturbation that kills me (although admittedly, I have slipped a few times), but this desire to speak to other girls. There is no filter or accountability when going to a strip club which makes it very easy. It is only because of Hashem that I have only gone twice (the last time being December 2011).
So, I guess that gives everyone a better picture of the nature of my addiction.
The filter needs to be installed between your ears. And G-d as well as other recovering people need to become your accountability partner.
Otherwise, you will
again go to a place of ill repute, and you will end up enjoying more each time, until one day you will look back 15 years (like me) and say: "wow, I have been acting out my compulsions for 15 years! How dumb!"
This is because while I may disagree with Dov, or MT may have a different opinion of Dov, or the "black jelly bean guy" may outright fight with Dov, the truth of the matter is Dov has been sober all these years while I was masturbating, watching porn, ordering hookers, going to showrooms, being absent from my family and unavailable for productive activity.
So I'm choosing to do what Dov's done, so that going forward I also stay sober one day at a time.
If you think you can install that filter we talked about, on your own, my black Borsalino is off to you. I hope you reconsider sooner than 15 years from now (I'm about that much older than you).
In case you're ready to admit that you lost the manual to this complex machine called "you", and can't run it on your own,
then I believe you should consider an accountability group, such as a live regular meeting with people who fight the same fight as you and they gain tremendously in the process.
That would be an act of surrender, if you came to ask for help from strangers, wouldn't it?
But that's exactly what we're prompted to admit: that anyone can manage my life better than I could. Because if I flag down a car, and ask a driver whether I should go to a strip club while my wife and son are sleeping at home, even if they said:"Yeah, great idea! 'Atta boy!" they still didn't come up with anything worse than what I wanted to do.
Chances are, however, they would say "that is a nutty idea, son, why don't you sleep on it?" Instead of asking "just someone",a room full of people who understand and go through the same temptations it allows for a very easy exchange.
So I am happy to see you're starting to admit the truth about yourself in the anonymous forum. I believe if you keep at working on this dilligently, you will have peace and happiness.
Mottel