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Question about Residential program 15 May 2011 16:47 #105965

  • MayEight

Hello.
My name is Daniel, and I am addicted to sexual arousal, alcohol, and cannabis.
I am an addict, and have been for a long time.

I am what you might call a re-beginner.
I had done some recovery work several years ago,
but let it lapse due to over-confidence.

Since then, I have also become more actively addicted to substances.

I am considering entering a residential program,
specifically, "Torah and the Twelve Steps" in Florida,
headed up by Rabbi Israel Burns.

I would like to know if anyone has been through this program,
or if they know anyone who has.

This would be a large investment for me,
and I want to make a good decision about it,
and not just out of desperation.

Thank you.
Daniel.

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Re: Question about Residential program 15 May 2011 21:27 #105989

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When you say you were in recovery in the past, do you mean meetings, a sponsor, and the steps, or do you mean something else?

If you have done any regular meetings and steps with a sponsor, then have you re-tried any regular 12 step programs yet? Why would you go to a treatment facility without re-trying regular meetings, a sponsor, and the steps first? And if you never tried it, then I'd need to understand your circumstances better before saying anything that sounded like 'advice', you understand.

Please let me know and I really do wish you all the best no matter what you decide you need.

Respectfully,

Dov
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: Question about Residential program 15 May 2011 23:57 #106000

  • MayEight
Dov,

I used to go to an SAA group.
I did that very regularly.
I did have a sponsor, one of the few members of the small group with any substantial sobriety.
Then he went on a month-long binge, and I couldn't get ahold of him...
That was one reason I stopped going to the group.
That, and I was tired of listening to everyone else
talk about how they slipped that week, it seemed.

The added dimension of long-time same-sex attraction
and depression and self-hatred and hopelessness around that,
and the complication of communication with other members
have not helped.
I spent $20,000 over 8 years addressing that,
and it seems that the addiction just kept undoing any gains I had made.

I am 45, I am alone, I have wasted enough of my life in addiction.
That's probably self-pity.
(which is typical of same-sex attraction affected persons - look it up).

I really would like to get into something
which could move me forward faster than
'one day at a time',
though I know that's how it's supposed to work.

I have recently started going to AA meetings,
as substance abuse has become more and more mixed in
with the sexual arousal addiction, and as addictions of their own.

Sometimes I have waves of self-hatred and hopelessness
and self-destructive thoughts.
The pot and drinking have kept those at bay,
but I'm finding it welling up more
now that I'm staying sober
(well, 24 hrs sober).

I hope that helps make things clearer.

Thanks.
Daniel.




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Re: Question about Residential program 16 May 2011 02:20 #106002

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Hey Daniel!
You are way out of my league.
I can offer no advice other than to do whatever Dov suggests.
I will keep you in my prayers.
Hatzlocha!!!
I am special
I was chosen for this special mission.
I must succeed.
Klal Yisroel needs me.
Hashem needs me.
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Re: Question about Residential program 16 May 2011 21:44 #106088

  • MayEight

Anyone?

Does anyone know anyone who has been through the
Torah Twelve Steps program in Florida?

Their banner is on the GYE website.

Thank you.
Daniel.

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Re: Question about Residential program 16 May 2011 21:47 #106089

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Maybe send an email to the admin. of GYE. Maybe send a personal email to "Guard"? If it's on the web site as a banner, he would know about it.
Hatzlocha!!
I am special
I was chosen for this special mission.
I must succeed.
Klal Yisroel needs me.
Hashem needs me.
Chizuk From the Parsha www.guardyoureyes.org/forum/index.php?topic=3456.0
Letter From YH
www.guardyoureyes.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3445.0;attach=1631
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Re: Question about Residential program 17 May 2011 03:47 #106122

  • MayEight

How do you email the admin?

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Re: Question about Residential program 17 May 2011 10:34 #106141

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PM guard.

In the meantime, MayEight, can you go to SA meetings there? I have a close recovery friend in FL. PM me and we'll talk about it, OK?

"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."
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Re: Question about Residential program 17 May 2011 17:02 #106171

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FYI, Guard is in America for about another week, and will have limited access to e-mail.

Hatzlacha!
Just as an alcoholic needs to avoid that first sip, a lust addict needs to avoid that first slip.Slip today? No way! ;)Fall today? No way, Jose'!
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