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interseting Medrash Tanchuma 17 Dec 2023 18:53 #405091

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See Medrash Tanchuma in parshas Vayeishev, on the passuk ויהי אחר הדברים האלהAt the end of the piece the Medrash it says: 
מהו אסורים ידיה? אילולי שכתוב בה אסורים ידיה היתה תופסת לאדם בשוק
The meforshim on the side explain that if not for the words of Hashem to chava והוא ימשול בך, the women would have the power to seduce men at will. I'm taking out of this medrash that Hashem stopped them from having the power over men to just force them into the act in the middle of the street. But they still have an awesome power over us. And if we stand together, and stand strong, how great is that! And when we have those burning desires, and we only wish if only...know that that's the story of being alive! That's the way Hashem created us. It's up to us to control how we act, and together we will prevail

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Re: interseting Medrash Tanchuma 18 Dec 2023 00:40 #405096

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Shkoach!!!
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רַבִּי מֵאִיר הֲוָה מִתְלוֹצֵץ בְּעוֹבְרֵי עֲבֵירָה. יוֹמָא חַד אִידְּמִי לֵיהּ שָׂטָן כְּאִיתְּתָא בְּהָךְ גִּיסָא דְנַהֲרָא, לָא הֲוָה מַבָּרָא – נְקַט מִצְרָא וְקָא עָבַר. כִּי מְטָא פַּלְגָא מִצְרָא שַׁבְקֵיהּ, אָמַר: אִי לָאו דְּקָא מַכְרְזִי בִּרְקִיעָא ״הִזָּהֲרוּ בְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר וְתוֹרָתוֹ״ שַׁוֵּיתֵיהּ לִדְמָךְ תַּרְתֵּי מָעֵי.The Gemara relates: Rabbi Meir would ridicule transgressors by saying it is easy to avoid temptation. One day, Satan appeared to him as a woman standing on the other side of the river. Since there was no ferry to cross the river, he took hold of a rope bridge and crossed the river. When he reached halfway across the rope bridge, the evil inclination left him and said to him: Were it not for the fact that they proclaim about you in heaven: Be careful with regard to Rabbi Meir and his Torah, I would have made your blood like two ma’a,

רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא הֲוָה מִתְלוֹצֵץ בְּעוֹבְרֵי עֲבֵירָה. יוֹמָא חַד אִידְּמִי לֵיהּ שָׂטָן כְּאִיתְּתָא בְּרֵישׁ דִּיקְלָא. נַקְטֵיהּ לְדִיקְלָא וְקָסָלֵיק וְאָזֵיל. כִּי מְטָא לְפַלְגֵיהּ דְּדִיקְלָא שַׁבְקֵיהּ, אָמַר: אִי לָאו דְּמַכְרְזִי בִּרְקִיעָא ״הִזָּהֲרוּ בְּרַבִּי עֲקִיבָא וְתוֹרָתוֹ״ שַׁוֵּיתֵיהּ לִדְמָךְ תַּרְתֵּי מָעֵי.Rabbi Akiva would likewise ridicule transgressors. One day, Satan appeared to him as a woman at the top of a palm tree. Rabbi Akiva grabbed hold of the palm tree and began climbing. When he was halfway up the palm tree, the evil inclination left him and said to him: Were it not for the fact that they proclaim about you in heaven: Be careful with regard to Rabbi Akiva and his Torah, I would have made your blood like two ma’a.

In the English - the Yetzer Hara ain't no rookie!!!

When we battle and win our accomplishment is UNIQUE since the beginning of brias haolam. It is shaking up the olamos haelyonim! It is shaking up the olamos hatachtonim!

It is the ACCOMPLISHMENT OF A LIFETIME!!!
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Last Edit: 18 Dec 2023 02:23 by hechochma.

Re: interseting Medrash Tanchuma 18 Dec 2023 01:53 #405098

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So this begs the question: Why did HKBH make the nemesis so powerful? Why did he create a game we can’t win on our own?! Surely it would make more sense to put us in a game we CAN win, rather than in an אלמלא הקב״ה עוזרו לא יוכל לו situation?

There’s an incredible Ohel Yaakov (Dubno) in Parshas Vayeshev that’s worth learning. Punch line is that this way we consistently are given the opportunity to strive for and receive help in RISING ABOVE the limits of our nature.
We are tested beyond our limits. We actually can’t win. But when we try He helps us get there. Then we are greater than we could have ever been before.
HKBH made the adversary so powerful because that is how WE become ever greater. That’s how we climb out of the petty confines of our own limited selves and become elevated and otherworldly!

Hashem made lust so strong so that we can each grow ourselves a monstuh tow truck, in other words.
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Re: interseting Medrash Tanchuma 19 Dec 2023 18:02 #405259

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A thought I heard from our dear friend Reb IWLR: Sometimes maybe the finish line is beyond us, maybe we can't really win, but our test is this: will we still do whatever we can?
Deep words from a deep thinker
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Re: interseting Medrash Tanchuma 19 Dec 2023 19:41 #405271

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I love this thread so far. Lets keep finding those Gamaras and Midrashim.
It helps me to know that the greatest Tzadikim also had this YH.

Lets not forget about Yosef Hatzadik, who is Named Tzadik because of his battle with this YH.
Remember that Yosef was actually ready to give in!!!
He finally had enough and was ready to go all the way, thats what the g'mara says....
He was only saved after he saw Yakov Avinu from teh window and stopped at the very last moment..... Holy Father in heaven!!! Yosef Hatzadik!
The G'mara also says that it was too late i dont want to trigger anyone here......
But on face value we would think that Yakov should be called Tzadik since he never saw 1 drop of impurity and he got married in his 80's.
But no, Yosef is the Tzadik because he stopped when its murderously hard to stop.... he didnt care how much pain it will cause him, he know that its wrong and ran out of there not a second too soon.

Thats my lesson for today guys.

Stay well

Re: interseting Medrash Tanchuma 20 Dec 2023 01:32 #405304

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chaimoigen wrote on 18 Dec 2023 01:53:
So this begs the question: Why did HKBH make the nemesis so powerful? Why did he create a game we can’t win on our own?! Surely it would make more sense to put us in a game we CAN win, rather than in an אלמלא הקב״ה עוזרו לא יוכל לו situation?

Another pshat is that Hashem wanted us to rely on Him in areas of spirituality also.
Nothing good grows in the dark. 

Re: interseting Medrash Tanchuma 20 Dec 2023 18:02 #405336

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eerie wrote on 19 Dec 2023 18:02:
A thought I heard from our dear friend Reb IWLR: Sometimes maybe the finish line is beyond us, maybe we can't really win, but our test is this: will we still do whatever we can?
Deep words from a deep thinker

thats the mishna in pirkie avos, lo alecha hamilach ligmor, ve‘ey ata ben chorin lehibatel mimenu
"Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm" - Winston Churchill

Curiosity kills the count

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Re: interseting Medrash Tanchuma 20 Dec 2023 22:10 #405354

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I was always the quiet kid in the classroom – not asking any questions or being part of the Rischa D’Oireisa…

Here too…I don’t have anything to add other than to thank you all for the nice Torah posts. Its refreshing.

You can win the fight, but I'll have to live with the loser.

Any excuse you use for yourself, you must be willing to use for your wife.

Not Always can I understand others, but I can always respect their wishes.

You're human, it's okay.

One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other.
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Re: interseting Medrash Tanchuma 21 Dec 2023 18:31 #405390

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Yeah, I remember you, quiet in the classroom, but in the yard, watch out!!!
Seriously, your friends lost out. If only you would have spoken!!!
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