I am stilling falling. This happens when I feel down/depressed or what ever else you want to call it (maor shichorah will do also). I know there is a little gab of time between when I feel down and o start to fall.

I am looking for suggestions on how to change course when I feel the black light before I fall.

To add to the challenge I tend not to be very motivated at those moments.

Yeah, I can definitely sympathize with that...

My record is not great lately but when I was taking this seriously, I would take a walk/jog with (loud) music. It was not a perfect solution but it definitely helped. I should get back to it myself ;-).

Best of luck!

Join Dc next cruise its all about learning how to pause.

my 2 cents, for what they are worth:

this is indeed a very old question and the gemara suggests some solutions. Im paga bach menuval zeh mushchehu lebais hamedrash. when you get hit with urges drag him (and yourself ) into the bais medrash. in the bais medrash you will find a few things. you will find your friends, with whom you can talk it over with. these things usually wilt away and die when exposed. you will also find a community striving for true good. this should effect you to some extent and the "asei tov" will push out the "ra". at the very least, it can serve as a distraction, get your mind off of it for a moment or two and give you a chance to take some emergency measures.

so in summary, you can reach out to a friend, try to distract yourself, and become part of a communal effort.

much hatzlacha,
zs

ZemirosShabbos wrote on 08 Nov 2010 15:32:


Not: Drag to learning;  Drag him to the Beis Medrash!    Besides for the mere(?) learning, there are other benefits from being in a Beis Medrash, as ZemirosShabbos so eloquently pointed out!!


GEVALDIGGGGG!!!!

Thanks zmiros for pointing out the chuchma of yosefs reply.
tze nemt der heimeshe yidin tzu farshtien der inyan.

Frumfiend The star wrote on 09 Nov 2010 00:54:
;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ; ;D :D

that's a great diyuk (to bais hamedrash as opposed to learning), reb Yosef Hatzadik, i did not think of that... but it fits very nicely with what i wrote, thanks

and thanks reb FFTS for certifying me as a 'heimishe yid' i hope not to let you down  ;D

Holy Yid wrote on 08 Nov 2010 08:14:

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT DC'S 12-STEP CALLS WILL HELP YOU DO!  JOIN THE NEXT ROUND!
(It changed my life)

--Eye.

My #1 tool in a situation like that is call another addict and tell him whats going on.  IT WORKS!!!!

Thank you for your responses.

I think that I need more than just ideas, I need to  change my whole approach to this this and that means changing myself.

I could try to reprogram my reaction with NLP or something like that. I wonder if anyone has tried it.

Making a commitment to call would be good. Although I do not have very many numbers at the moment. If people would I'm me numbers I would greatly appreciate it.