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Are we all feeling ignored? RECENTLY UPDATED 05 Oct 2010 20:02 #79615

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Many of us feel that once we post a few times the crew moves on to new people.

Does anyone have ideas how to help this situation?
זכרני נא, זכרני נא, וחזקני נא אך הפעם הזה, הפעם הזה, האלקים, ואנקמה נקם אחת משתי עיני, מפלשתים
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 20:22 #79617

  • bardichev
its a valid point

her is an eitzah

you need to keep posting

some people spill their guts

or reach out for help

and then go into hiding so its a 2 way strret

b

hey no matter what keep on trucking
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 20:55 #79619

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Why don't we all learn from The Rebbe Reb Bardichev & post short replies all over the forum?

How often do we read a thread, but since we don't have any scholarly philosophical theories to add we just go on to the next post. Even a short one sentence comment, complement, or encouragement can work wonders!!!

We all know how nice it feels when we feel part of the group. Why not give that warm feelings to others too?

...and yes, old-timers also need it.


The Mashgiach, Harav Mattisyahu Salamon Shlita]
[b]The Mashgiach, Harav Mattisyahu Salamon Shlita[/b] said, wrote
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Rambam [/b]says about compliments. The Rambam says that the Mitzva of V'ahavta L'reiacha kamocha is sheyesaper adam bishvach chaveiro b'derech shrotzeh sheyesapru bishvacho-he should speak the praise of his friend the way he wants that others should speak his praise!

"People avoid complimenting because they are afraid of the issur of chanifa-flattery. This is not chanifa; it is the Mitzva of V'ahavta L'reiacha kamocha! What is chanifa? Rabbeinu Yona in Sharei Teshuvah explains chanifa: Omer leRasha "Lo chatasa" - he tells a Rasha "You have not sinned, because he wants to find favor in the Rasha's eyes. If it is not in that category it is a Mitzva!"



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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 21:00 #79620

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Yosef Hatzadik wrote on 05 Oct 2010 20:55:

Why don't we all learn from The Rebbe Reb Bardichev & post short replies all over the forum?

How often do we read a thread, but since we don't have any scholarly philosophical theories to add we just go on to the next post. Even a short one sentence comment, complement, or encouragement can work wonders!!!

We all know how nice it feels when we feel part of the group. Why not give that warm feelings to others too?

...and yes, old-timers also need it.


The Mashgiach, Harav Mattisyahu Salamon Shlita]
[b]The Mashgiach, Harav Mattisyahu Salamon Shlita[/b] said, wrote
:

Rambam [/b]says about compliments. The Rambam says that the Mitzva of V'ahavta L'reiacha kamocha is sheyesaper adam bishvach chaveiro b'derech shrotzeh sheyesapru bishvacho-he should speak the praise of his friend the way he wants that others should speak his praise!

"People avoid complimenting because they are afraid of the issur of chanifa-flattery. This is not chanifa; it is the Mitzva of V'ahavta L'reiacha kamocha! What is chanifa? Rabbeinu Yona in Sharei Teshuvah explains chanifa: Omer leRasha "Lo chatasa" - he tells a Rasha "You have not sinned, because he wants to find favor in the Rasha's eyes. If it is not in that category it is a Mitzva!"



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super idea, where do we sign up for the Post Patrol? do we get badges and unit numbers?
seriously, it is a great thing to do and it would help others. we never know how much a kind word can do for someone else when they need it.
Sometimes life is like tuna with not enough mayonaise
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 21:03 #79622

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ZemirosShabbos wrote on 05 Oct 2010 21:00:

super idea, where do we sign up for the Post Patrol? do we get badges and unit numbers?
seriously, it is a great thing to do and it would help others. we never know how much a kind word can do for someone else when they need it.


Your badge is on the side of every post that you write on this site!  ;D

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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 21:13 #79623

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10-4  8)
Sometimes life is like tuna with not enough mayonaise
~Inna beshem ZS

Give, Forgive
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The reason I'm acting as if I'm pregnant, is because I'm expecting. I should be accepting.
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 21:17 #79626

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;D You just moved up:

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Soon you will move to a higher rank too!

Leaving all the other Jr. Members behind in your dust? NO! Let them all come along!

It is a fun ride!!
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 21:49 #79630

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Who are all these guys?
Are you new here?
Do you have threads?
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 21:52 #79631

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my name is bards

ive been here for a year and a half

i went almost a full year clean

i am slip free for almost  6 months now

i have a thread called bardichevs battle



keep on trucking

and dont pay attention to the sideshow

life is a game we win by staying in the game

big deal if u are triggerred.. dont act on it

you will never get rid of your yh  just ignore him


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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 22:05 #79634

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Yosef Hatzadik wrote on 05 Oct 2010 20:55:

Why don't we all learn from The Rebbe Reb Bardichev & post short replies all over the forum?

How often do we read a thread, but since we don't have any scholarly philosophical theories to add we just go on to the next post. Even a short one sentence comment, complement, or encouragement can work wonders!!!


This is a great idea but many people need to share their struggles and get feed back. Although quick posts like "KOT" can give us a boost they will not help people stay focused on their struggles.

Also there is a group who is in Yeshiva and do not have internet access during the Zeman. Although they might post allot bein hazemanim they do not have the ability to develop and maintain relationship the way people who are here regularly do. They may also feel out of the loop and this can hurt them.

In my opinion the issue is that many people could progress much more if they would be open and they get constant feedback and ideas.

The site B"H is bigger than it used to be and it is hard for everyone to know each other or stay on top of each other. We might want to think about making groups of some kind.
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 22:08 #79635

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Me3 wrote on 05 Oct 2010 21:49:

Who are all these guys?
Are you new here?
Do you have threads?


OK, OK, so you haven't gotten to know Holy Yid (632 posts), Yosef Hatzadik (The biggest nudnik around), or Zemiros Shabbos (95),
But what about Bardichev?? You never came across any of his 3200+ posts??
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 22:10 #79637

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I'll just ignore that.
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? (All guys with under 50 posts please post here) 05 Oct 2010 22:15 #79638

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Me3 wrote on 05 Oct 2010 22:10:

I'll just ignore that.


So you are adding to the problem 

CHEVRA, please stay on topic.

Yosef Hatzadik say he knows people who left GYE, and we know how much that helps you, because they felt their were not getting feedback.

Does any one have comments on the issue or ideas.

1. How real is the issue? Bards says some people stop posting before they are ignored. Do you agree? What was your experince?

Guy with ten posts post here.

2. If it is a real problem what  can we do?
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? 05 Oct 2010 22:16 #79639

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Holy Yid wrote on 05 Oct 2010 22:05:

This is a great idea but many people need to share their struggles and get feed back. Although quick posts like "KOT" can give us a boost they will not help people stay focused on their struggles.


In my not-so-humble opinion, there is benefit in a "KOT" too. It lets the 'receiver' know that others are out there following his progress & reading his posts. That he is not 'talking to the wall'.

Besides, after someone gets into the habit of replying, even if only with three letter words, he will probably write longer posts when there is a need.


Many post that are written in a style of 'journalizing' don't lend themselves to replies. Oftentimes, there is not much to say other than just letting the guy know that we are standing by and rooting for him from the sidelines..


Your other suggestions sound VERY nice too!



(BTW, I purposely wrote " Even a short one sentence comment, complement, or encouragement can work wonders!!!"  I did NOT mean "KOT", "KUTGW", etc.)
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Re: Are we all feeling ignored? (If you have less than 50 posts please read) 05 Oct 2010 22:22 #79641

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Yosef Hatzadik wrote on 05 Oct 2010 22:16:

Holy Yid wrote on 05 Oct 2010 22:05:

This is a great idea but many people need to share their struggles and get feed back. Although quick posts like "KOT" can give us a boost they will not help people stay focused on their struggles.


In my not-so-humble opinion, there is benefit in a "KOT" too. It lets the 'receiver' know that others are out there following his progress & reading his posts. That he is not 'talking to the wall'.

Besides, after someone gets into the habit of replying, even if only with three letter words, he will probably write longer posts when there is a need.


Many post that are written in a style of 'journalizing' don't lend themselves to replies. Oftentimes, there is not much to say other than just letting the guy know that we are standing by and rooting for him from the sidelines..


Your other suggestions sound VERY nice too!



(BTW, I purposely wrote " Even a short one sentence comment, complement, or encouragement can work wonders!!!"  I did NOT mean "KOT", "KUTGW", etc.)



You are saying it is hard to reply in a meaning full way to a journal like entry. Granted. However if you
where part of a small group who checked on each other all members might feel more better.

Also there most probably are many calls for help which don't make it to the "I am about to fall" thread that go unanswered. If we cut nip problems in the bud we would be better off.
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