I so much agree with Frumfiend! But....
ben yaakov wrote on 08 Oct 2010 02:40:
dear s4l
from my personal experiance and from reading about this addiction it doesn't leave after marriage. The reason for this is because we don't know how to handle problems and issues that come.The addiction doesn't let us mature. when we get married we are still the same.
It is not because of lack of intimacy why we are addicted we don't even understand intimacy untill we handle, control and understand the adddiction.
1- Hey, wait a minute there. Who paskened on this fellow that he is an
addict? Maybe he is just a weak person who is getting slammed by the great pleasure of fantasy and masturbation and if he tries harder and smarter he may make it.
Chances are not that great, but...could be. I believe that being open to that possibility is very important, at least for me to keep my head and remain less of the judgmental know-it-all than I'd love to be.
An addict is unable to stop - his track record eventually teaches him this - hopefully
before creating too much wreckage and destroying too many other people's lives. He (or she) is also suffering a great deal at the hands of the compulsion. Life is often looking acceptable on the outside, but truly nuts on the inside. And they are the only ones who can possibly decide whether or not they are addicts.
I completely reject the idea that any yid who uses porn (fantasy) and masturbates once in a while is "an addict". As far as I am concerned, that is ridiculous. The badness of the aveira does not convert in into an addiction - at least per the 1st of the 12 steps that I know of.
2- I have never met any guy who admitted he was an addict who got better by getting married. Maybe there are some, but I rather believe that
this is often what happens to them:
Crazy over lust, they get married and drive their wives batty with sexual demands for decades. This remains behind closed door. No one finds out about it...until they finally give up either because their
wives are tired of the
disgusting idea of being treated as an 'receptacle' for their husbands to act out all their fantasies in - or the husband
himself soon discovers that his poor, innocent wife
cannot compete with the fantasy-woman (or women) burned into his heart.
The real success stories are of the men who are either addicts
and in recovery, or were never addicts in the first place and grew up a bit after getting married. They learned what real life is like and
let go of the childish fantasies - unlike myself. I did not do that. And here I am, totally unable to win the battle and yet sober today for the past 13 1/2 years, by His Chessed.