trying123 wrote on 08 Mar 2010 01:41:


All my posts over the last 2 months where without any sefarim. Everything I posted was from memory, except for a few rare occasions. (and hebrewbooks.com)

I vaguely remember that R moshe established 9kavim as 6.4 gallons??? but that is definitely off.  I know that the greatest shiur anyone ever gave for 9 kavim is 32 liters.    Ususaly, if a chevra kadisha doesn't utilise a mikva, then they do 9 kavim using 2 or 3 buckets of water. Some use 3 because it's easier to pour over the meis (wimps).

I never realy learnt these halachos much. Although I think there is a siman in the SHulchan Aruch that dicuses what to do on 9 beAv if you have keri.

can anyone simply ask their rav??    or just "go jump in a lake"

<...> Is there tumah or aveirah or other reason for anyone -- particularly a hormonally-activated-teen -- to feel personal pain from a fully-involuntary nocturnal emission?  If so, speak up now. If not, then let these boys live their lives in peace and move on to other, higher, more appropriate areas for growth.

I think 24 hours should be enough.<...> 

Hi everyone,

I'm kind of deviating from the flow of the conversation (sorry), to post something I read about nocturnal emissions. First in foremost, I learned that if we guard our eyes during the day, we won't have wet dreams at night. Additionally, we have to also clear our mind from the falsehood of phony fantasies - hehe it rhymes. So, this Shabbos I read an interesting thing in the The Light of Ephraim book. The author Ben Yosef stated, that the Kabbalah stresses that carefully reading the section of prayers describing the constitution of the incense in the Temple days is a most effective source of protection. While reading this section won't guarantee one from nocturnal emissions (guarding ones eyes, mind and speech does), it is a protection. Briefly, the author quoted Rabbi Shimon, who said if we carefully read each word and understand the meaning of the pitum haketoret (the compounding of the incense), its as if we are placing a golden crown upon our heads. Aren't we priest among the nations? Since we are pushing for holiness, lets walk around with this that spiritual crown. So, if we say it each day, in a focused manner, R' Shimon stated that we are protected from evil occurrences, evil thoughts, an evil death, and a full days of protection. The author Ben Yosef, also pointed out that the 11 spices making up the incenses represents the complete rectification of evil. By carefully reading this section we bring down Divine protection.

Shalom.

Giant Leap

A person needs to very concerned with a wet dream.  As guard stated it is a great honor.  But the honor does not stop by putting a plaque on your wall.  It means the Y"H is trying his best to get you.  This is first attempt to seep his way back into your life.  This, is therefore an opportunity for you to take your abstinence to the next level.  But do not brush it away as it shows that you consider it all an accident and you are sending a message to the Y"H that your guard is down.  He is trying to weaken your sensitivity to aveiros.  The more you cry over every minute fall, the more you come close to Hashem and more the Y"H moves away from you.  Is it an ones? Yes!  But by crying over it, you show how much you hate this Y"H.  It is opportunity to scare away the Y"H.  This incident will not take you dwon but raise to higher levels than you were able to reach in the past two months.  Many people are not reminded to take it the next level.  But you are zoche to have been given your signs to go further. 

What do I mean by going further?  Well, firstly, you should be honest with yourself and your thoughts.  You should begin to analyze what thoughts go through your head during the day.  Are you indeed, still craving physical desires deep down in the recess of your heart. We sometimes do not even notice these thoughts in ourselves.  You must get in touch with yourself. 

But, perhaps more elementary is begin analyzing your actions during your day.  Do you ever sleep on your back your stomach.  We know that a man is only allowed to lye in his side.  This is a serious issue and should not be taken lightly. This does not only mean sleeping, but anytime one lies down, it should always be on his side.  During sleeping hours it is harder to accomplish.  But, after enough practice, the body gets used to it.  This is Hashem wants us to sleep so it is natural.  I sometimes wake up five to six times in the middle of the night because I have noticed that I rolled over.  When the body is conscious of it, you are automatic about it.  If a person violates this, it will be hard for him to overcome completely the y"H, as he is constantly inviting the Y"H back into his life.

Next thing to ask yourself is regarding erections.  This means, a person should become conscious of whether he gets them and immediately try to stop it.  This is also means that, after saying מודה אני the next thing is to work on putting it down.  Again, after a while this becomes second nature.

Next item: touching the private part.  Special care should be taken to never touch the private part.

next item:  guarding your eyes.  Ask yourself where you are holding in this regard.  This is not a binary issue.  There are levels.  So ask yourself if you are ready for the next level. 

If, B"H, you are complete in all the above, begin asking yourself where you can grow with your perspective in life and yourself.  Are you thinking of Hashem as much as you should?  What role does Hashem play in your life.  Is he just that being to whom to pray to three times a day and perform important tasks for his sake Or is he the essence of every move and thought that controls your day. This issue also not binary, there are levels.

Phillip, I wish you much success.  Do not get bogged down with the technicalities if it is an aveira or not.  Think about what it means on a broader scope in your life.  Take the messages to heart.  Only you can tell yourself what this means.  How did it make you feel.  If you felt like garbage, rejoice over the fact that it bothers you so much.  And then remind yourself that you are special because you are a servant of Hashem.

Lastly, I tell you all this from personal experience.  B"H, I have not had a wet dream in a real long time.  But, there were many times in my life that I was abstinent and I began to fall from a simple wet dream.  I did not head the signs.  I brushed it away, saying it is not my fault.  I did not do teshuva on it.  I did not cry for help from hashem.  And I did realize that the Y"H has entered my brain.  He would slowly build up and I eventually fell. 
Take this time and KILL him.  יגער ד' בך השטן

thank you, i did not realize Chazal praise Yaakov Avinu for never having a "wet dream" i did not even realize alot of prople had the dreams i just thought it happened to a few people. did you (underthenet) get my reply on you're post, Dreams?