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Re: triggers 30 Dec 2009 18:59 #40180

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Thank you everyone. I am truly amazed at discovering that what I thought was a personal Mishigus is actually a common experience. I think that this demonstrates once again the Koach of GYE.
This is my question. The acting out that occurs as a result of this spiritual conflict, is it to fill an emotional/ psychological need (i.e. addiction) or is it a spiritual YH? Or is one gorem the other? 
I think that understanding this will help us learn how to deal with these situations.
I don't like attributing specific thoughts to the y"h. There's no way to put your finger on his mehalech, and "figure him out". He'll just always be a waaaaaaaaaay ahead of you. All you can really do is just not listen. You decide your hanhagah at the beginning of the day, and you don't budge from it no matter what. But to try to be 'on guard' for anything he tells you, so you can know it's him...... He's just too good. You'll never get to that point.
Of course there are his old and usual tricks, which you can learn not to fall for, like depression and yiush. But generally speaking, he's a malach, and his will is very strong, and he's smart enough to have gotten the greatest of the greatest. We're certainly no match for him.
The acting out is simply the result of him telling you what you need to hear in order for you to do it. If telling you the opposite would get you to do it - he'd tell you that. He doesn't really care how he gets you to listen to him as long as you do.
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Re: triggers 03 Jan 2010 11:49 #41311

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I appreciate everyone’s insights. I am putting them on hold for the next time that I have a spiritual conflict.

I just experienced a “trigger” which is really so trivial that I feel embarrassed with myself, yet I felt the power of it, so I am posting it to get it out of my system and hopefully to benefit others from pointing it out.

Since I started the 90 days I have been extremely careful not to browse the internet. I know that it takes almost anything to set me off. Today I tried to go in to the site of Kol Halashon. For some reason I was told that I had the wrong address. I was presented with various options by Google. I started clicking, and at that moment I felt that thrill!! I had a really valid reason for searching the internet!! What could be better than trying to get Kol HaLashon !! It is hard to describe the exact feeling but I am sure that everyone knows it in their own way. B”H and thanks to GYE I recognized the symptoms and I literally forced myself to close up the Internet.
silentbattle wrote on 30 Dec 2009 16:33:

our job is not to listen to him, even when he poses as a tzaddik with a long beard

Yes, the Y”H won’t stop at anything.

Thank you GYE. I am indebted to you all.
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Re: triggers 03 Jan 2010 13:25 #41333

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ovadia wrote on 03 Jan 2010 11:49:

B”H and thanks to GYE I recognized the symptoms and I literally forced myself to close up the Internet.


SHKOYACH!
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Re: triggers 03 Jan 2010 14:25 #41350

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I started clicking, and at that moment I felt that thrill!! I had a really valid reason for searching the internet!! What could be better than trying to get Kol HaLashon !! It is hard to describe the exact feeling but I am sure that everyone knows it in their own way
Yeah, that's a regular. By now I already acknowledge my true intentions - even when I'm only checking out the "innocent stuff" with "kosher intentions". It doesn't help me anymore to recognize it, I still continue.
I wish you hatzlacha though.
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Re: triggers 03 Jan 2010 14:51 #41353

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By the way - I'm sure you already know this, but the time to put in effort and thought is before you feel the conflict...
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Re: triggers 03 Jan 2010 18:46 #41445

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Ovadia you rock the house. And good for you that you caught yourself. Keep on rockin' bro. hatzlacha.
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Re: triggers 04 Jan 2010 12:40 #41717

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imtrying25 wrote on 03 Jan 2010 18:46:

Ovadia you rock the house. And good for you that you caught yourself. Keep on rockin' bro. hatzlacha.
correction: you rock the house. I am just trying. Excuse the pun ! Thanks for the thumbs up.
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Re: triggers 04 Jan 2010 19:32 #41941

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Ok ok ill give into you this time. Were both rockin and were both tryin!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: triggers 06 Jan 2010 02:10 #42597

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Deal! Sold to the highest bidder, for a grand total of an effort to do what hashem wants!
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