For those who have noticed a lot more flakiness going on lately on the forum, it's because RATM left yesterday... We contacted him and told him that everyone's worried about him, and here's what he replied (by e-mail). - and yes, he gave me permission to post this, since, as he wrote me, he really does love everyone here. (woops. that part he specifically wrote that I am not allowed to post. Yikes. I better get my life-insurance in order)

i didnt fall...gye forum just became another place i dont belong...

im gonna keep the 90 days going....last night was mikveh so i think im good for a while....

heres me: i was born into a very hareidi family...lots of brothers and sisters...my father is well known possek and rav...i learned for many years and even started on smicha...since then, ive never been non observant, chas veshalom,  but ive rejected the seclusions of hareidi life in many ways (even if i do wear a black hat still on shabbat)...to be true, i was thrown out on my tuchus from hareidi life...i was rejected by them and i returned the favor...maybe this was my biggest mistake....i now believe that it is better to live hareidi in a box than to go out into this disgusting world and live a good jewish life here...anyway, im raising my kids hareidi (they go to the most hareidi of schools) but its too late for me...i will never go back to live in the box...in a way, ive got no place to go...i dont want to be a modox, i dont want to be hareidi, i dont want to be a part of any world...in sum, i dont belong anywhere....

gye is a place for hareidi jews, god bless some of the recent moderators and what they're trying to do there but i cant be a part of that... i felt like i became separated from the herd....

but youve saved my life... thank you,

guardureyes wrote on 22 Oct 2009 15:15:


What a shame.  Just when these moderators were beginning to seek help!

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RATM

you will be missed

I hope you change your mind

you are a Yid

that is what you are

the terms in boxes are stupid

be the best you can be

and you can be

and you will be

you are not separated even as you separate because you are a Yid that has goodness in him that will come out.

in my own weird way I feel like I belong nowhere because I feel different

but I also belong everywhere because I'm part of this great nation

true a nation that can drive it's Father into great frustration at times.

but a nation that is His--forever

RATM-you belong here even if you do not feel this way.

moderators are trying and they will stumble in thier trying as the need for self expression and restraint always conflict and is always a difficult balance.

RATM-you belong nowhere and everywhere at the same time

you belong here

there is no separation.

there never was

there never will be

besides, your posts help people (except the one that you deemed me a flaky female of course)

if not for you-do it for us

atleast think about it

with great respect

MR(the MALE who is married to the "FEMALE" MRS) yechida

I honestly dont know what to say.
I had started liking that guy, flaky rage and all.

Rage, I dont know if you are reading this, but if you are, I sincerly apologize if any of my editing has upset you.
Ive really tried not to get carried away, but everyone has their own personal level of "daled amos" and if I invaded yours, Im sorry.

We really would like you to come back.
Not only do I think that you gain by being part of this flaky family, but I know for a fact, that we do.

Chiefteness 7up

Rage

Please don't leave me here alone.

we need some balance here.

We are going to be stuck with a bunch of RAH RAH RAHS!

I'm going to get sick.

Embrace your inner flake. You can't escape it.

BTW what's this about being only for chareidim?

We have had non-Jews post here in the past and nobody had a problem with it?

Still do and he adds amazingly.

As far as edits go, we obviously do have to find some "golden balance"... But GYE is not at all "chareidi" or boxed...

Remember, Moshe Rabbeinu wasn't Chareidi either... Hey, even Hashem isn't! (Is he even religious? I've seen it rain on Shabbos - for G-d's sake!)
Uh oh, I hope I'm not pushing the blasphemy envelope here. (Kedusha, feel free to edit).

Anyway, RATM, feel free to come back and just be who YOU are.
And believe me, I have seen your heart in your posts.... There is something very deep and very beautiful (and flaky) in there.

We will be missing the FLAKE MAN on the forum. You added so much life here.
I beg you to reconsider...

(Maybe come back as a different name... Not that we wouldn't recognize you in 2 seconds, but whatever  )

Rage, we don't care if/how religious you are
we don't look at that here
we are here to strengthen each other, not to judge one another
and we all benefit from what you contribute
you're raging and heart that's thawing
has really helped me keep strong.
who's gonna do that if you leave? :'(
you really balance out the forum
and are SO good for us.
youre encouragement goes a long way.

please don't leave. we NEED you!

:'( :'( :'(,
letakain

The big question is: what will Rage do with all the extra time he now has on his hands?  The answer may surprise you:

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bardichev nisht happy 

no reason for finger pointing

but we lost a huge "koach"

nisht happy nisht happy


im atta maamin she-efshar likalkell

vadayy vadayy efshaer letakain

guardureyes wrote on 22 Oct 2009 16:58:


To paraphrase Dov, it's not the 20th edit that would derail my sobriety, it's the first! :D

Therefore, if you have a problem with it R. Guard, you'll need to be your own editor.

As for raining on Shabbos, it could be that, since Hashem can make the plants grow without rain, the rain is considered a Melacha She'aina Tzricha L'Gufah, which is only an Issur D'Rabbanan.  According to the Rambam, however, who holds it's an Issur D'Oraisah, your question is a good one.

The Gemarah says that [Kivayachol] Hashem wears Tefillin.  No where, to my knowledge, does it say that Hashem wears a black hat (or a Streimel, or Kipah Serugah, for that matter!).

uh oh.. >
and here I was finally learning about healthy rage.....
Hey, you gotta come back, unless you want us tormenting you in your dreams...The lions are the moderators  :D

TrYiNg wrote on 22 Oct 2009 18:08:


Not anymore!

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LOL!!!!
rage! if you don't do this, you're missing such a fun opportunity!!!!!

RATM -

1. i have a redacted document that you asked for which I need to send to you, so please send me an email/pm and I will get it to you

2. no place for non-haredi jews?  Well then I'd better get out of here then too!!!