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Re: Hello, I'm new. 05 Jan 2010 15:28 #42336

  • NotAlone
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Haha, it seems my old thread has gained a new lease on life...
The title doesn't really fit the topic any more
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Re: Hello, I'm new. 05 Jan 2010 20:30 #42469

  • Yosef
Thanks to Guard,Rage, and Haba for your support and to NotAlone for starting it going. While I can't say that I'm grateful for my fall, I am grateful that I have come to see that I really wasn't getting the program. Someone with 25 years clean told me that "MY" program was not working for me. ( lamashel -doctors do not self-diagnose and treat themselves they go to another doctor no matter how "smart" they are)[b] What was my program? Basically online SA meetings with an SA phone sponsor. He told me to read the Dr's opinion in the AA Big Book over and over and to study the critically important concepts of: Tolerance, and Toxicity (pgs. 30 & 32 in the SA White Book). He told me that because I did not fully understand these and other concepts such as trigger mechanisms ( p. 33 SA ) that I wasn't truely sober even during my 1 year and 5 months. I think he is right. I was abstinate but I had not make a real deep committment to stop fantasizing, putting a filter on my computer, not dipping into memories or guarding my eyes. I continued to feed the addiction and glossed over the day-to-day work on making a "progressive victory over lust". I can see why this is also made a prerequiste for sobriety by SA. My friend told me that I was fooling myself if I thought that I didn't need face-to-face meetings and that the relinquishment of pride that would be required for me to attend would be my greatest gain. (that was from Dov). You see. Pride told me that I was somehow different than the rest of you guys, that I could cut the corners and get away with stuff. Like an alcoholic that stores a few bottles away for that rainy day. My brain neurons are loaded with bottles in the forms of memories and fantasies and as we know,there are no shortage of "hits" that we can take from the external world around us. Now lets see what I'm really made of. Will I finally realize how sick I really am and be willing to go much deeper into my brain and be more honest with myself about the junk that I'm thinking about. It says on p. 32 of the SA white book, and its explicit if you want to stop here: "In sobriety, once we have withdrawn from lust and then let it back in, the toxic effect is felt immediately and strongly.  We can tolerate less of it than ever, and it produces a greater disturbance. Our sexaholism doesn't stand still; it progressively worsens."Will I go to face-to-face meetings? You see I'm still not there yet. I'm still "bargaining with disaster". Am I really willing to go to any lengths to have a true Spirtual Awakening (not just intellectually learning the Daf). What will it take for me to join with those who really "believe in themselves and the Power that pulls chronic Alcoholics (lustaholics) back from the gates of death" (Big Book, The Doctor's Opinion, p. 25.)

Thank you for letting me share,
Yosef (a gratefully recovering sex-addict)
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Re: Hello, I'm new. 05 Jan 2010 21:37 #42517

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You summed up the SA program very well.
And I love the honesty.
Very cool I must say.
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Re: Hello, I'm new. 06 Jan 2010 19:14 #43024

  • Yosef
Thank you for your honesty, K.G.. Wow...that's great...a new friend...let's stay in touch!

Yosef  :D
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