For us strugglers every Shabes and Yom Tov can be hard, but on Simchas Torah when they stand above the mechitse and outside schmoozing we need extra chizuk

Although, they say from the Shinever rov Z"L that whoever it diturbes him the woman above the mechitse by the Hakofos had no Heilige Teg.

So on the other hand if we pass that day well it is like a medal to us.

So lets pass that challenge, will we?

G38 wrote on 02 Oct 2009 11:00:


I really wish they would not do that. That is have the women out of the mechitzah. The world has to be made aware that some people, at least, nevetheless have a problem and have to be taken into consideration.

in my shull the hallways are over-run with women...everywhere!  they somehow seem to outnumber us men. But just immagine someone telling your wife/daughter/mother about the way they say you looking at them.....ouch. A person needs to use all of his midos letovah (exept for Azut-brazenness which the MB says to be careful with)... so we have to develop a gaiva diKedusha. "I am too holy to be seen doing such a thing." "I have the biggest lust for znus in this entire joint, and I'm misgaber on my YZH"R every minute that i don't 'excuse' myself to the restroom, i'm i tzaddik." 
"R tzadok hakohen In tzidkat hatzadik says that one whos is misgaber over his YZH"R in these areas, gets  schar corrisponding to all the effort put into the aveira. Reboisai the world entertainment industry spends trillions of dollars to get you to stare at women, to think about them, and to associate their physical appearance with a stupid can of soda!!!! And you get schar corrisponding to the billions of hours of creativity, and artistic design, computer graphics, photoshoots, web-building, that goes into the worlds porn industry. Hello!!!! Everyon on the wall of honor is kadosh vetahor, tzadik yesod olam...we should all realise the koach hakedusha that we have. Our freinds who havent seen the very bottom of the pit of sexual addiction arenn't getting a fraction of the schar that we get. (although this goes back to the 2 oppinions as to whether a ba'al teshuva is greater, or a tzadik that never did it.....but either way we did it already) we are all spiritual giants!

After being here some time and reading what our female colleges have to say it seems that the women have no clue of what the mind of a man thinks.

it would be hard to blame them and even to explain it to them.

Therefore it should be taught in schools to them, but this is an old argument here...