I am 123 days clean but last night for about half an hour I started looking on you tube at videos that are not nice.
But since it is not porn.
since I did not see total nudity do I consider it a fall or not?

Welcome! and congratulations on 123 days, that is really gevaldig. kol hakavod.

not sure about the youtube viewing, i don't think it is a fall, maybe a slip but it is definitely not a good idea to hang out on youtube (not that you need me to tell you). if you want a video 'fix' there are better places to go. like matzav.com or mahnishmah.com, both have a lot of clean videos.
keep up your good work!
wishing you much hatzlocha
zs

climbing wrote:


Hi Climbing

On the "rule" page these are the four definitive falls

1. Intentional masturbation
2. Intentionally viewing improper sites
3. Intentionally calling inappropriate telephone numbers
4. Intentionally seeking out and reading erotica

Worse things, which I need not mention.

But you need to be honest with yourself. Why did you go there in the first place. Really.

Without getting into details, you and I know that just because a website isn't an "adult" site, there can still be stuff up there that will make you lustful to the point of no return (at least for that round of fighting).

So listen up holy brother,

At 123 days rather than asking is this a fall versus a slip, ask yourself what can I do to make sure that doesn't happen again. If you need to split hairs in order to figure out whether or not something is considered a fall then it might be a fall disguised as a slip. (Them dudes are sneaky).

Either way welcome to the club :-) welcome aboard.

Eli