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Sad feelings 04 Apr 2012 20:04 #135552

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Hey, i currently have a great 7 day streak going, but im gettin these weird depression kinda feelings. I know from last time that this once caused me to fall so im on guard. but its just so annoying. Its been a great streak, doing lots of material reading, and  be on top of everything, my y'h doesnt usually take this path though i guess lol. anyway thanks for reading
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Re: Sad feelings 04 Apr 2012 20:18 #135553

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Congrats on 7 days!
Your addict will be up to all kinds of new tricks to try and get his fix.
The feeling you are experiencing may be withdrawal.  It will pass.
Keep taking it one day at a time.
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Re: Sad feelings 05 Apr 2012 01:36 #135568

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I would suggest to not dwell on them and just live with Hashem in the moment
זכרני נא, זכרני נא, וחזקני נא אך הפעם הזה, הפעם הזה, האלקים, ואנקמה נקם אחת משתי עיני, מפלשתים
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Re: Sad feelings 05 Apr 2012 04:40 #135573

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ok great idea, thanks so much for input, really helps!
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Re: Sad feelings 06 Apr 2012 04:48 #135595

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glad i could help.

many people find it helpful to their breaking free to share about their struggles. For many including myself this was hard at first, but with time they (me) opened up and found it very helpful.
זכרני נא, זכרני נא, וחזקני נא אך הפעם הזה, הפעם הזה, האלקים, ואנקמה נקם אחת משתי עיני, מפלשתים
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Re: Sad feelings 06 Apr 2012 18:25 #135611

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How are you doing now?5 How do you feel?
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Re: Sad feelings 12 Apr 2012 16:22 #135725

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hello

Re: Sad feelings 19 Apr 2012 15:37 #135928

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Check this out,this is from one of the daily emails we get.


The Zohar Hakadosh says that on the day Yosef ran away from Eishes Potifar he achieved the highest level of Tzadik Yesod Olam...

There is a Medrash that says that when Yosef came to do "his work" that day, he was actually going to sin. But then he saw the image of Yaakov Avinu and stopped. There is actually another Medrash (Medrash Abkir - which we don't have today, but is quoted by the other Medrashim) that says that even the image of Yaakov Avinu wasn't enough to stop him. He was also shown the image of his mother Rachel, and only then did he finally run out. But the Medrash Akbir goes on to say that he was overcome with such a strong desire that he actually turned around and headed back towards the house. At that point, Hashem himself appeared to Yosef and told him that if he sinned the world would have to be destroyed. Only then did Yosef finally turn and run away.

The question is asked: What Jew would continue to sin even if he saw the face of Yaakov and Rachel? And what human being - even a non-Jew - would continue to sin even after Hashem Himself came and said that the world will be destroyed if you sin?? So why did this test lift him to the high level of Tzadik Yesod Olam? Anyone would have refrained in such a situation!

And here is the answer that he said over from Tzadikim, which I found truly beautiful:

The entire year prior to that fateful day, the wife of Potifar had tried to seduce Yosef every day. Chazal say that she encompassed the powers of seductions of all women of all times. She was the greatest "Klippah" of this temptation, and Yosef had used his own righteousness and free-choice to avoid her for a full year. He had already done all he could do with his own free will, but his madrega wasn't "complete" because there was no way for him to avoid the feeling deep down of "I was able to overcome this great test"... As great a Tzadik as Yosef was, there was no way for him to not have a slight feeling of "Kochi Ve'Otzem Yadi" in his overcoming these great tests. Therefore, his great Medrega was still missing the true recognition that everything he had achieved was really from Hashem. In order to bring Yosef to the madrega of Tzadik Yesod Olam, he had to come to a complete recognition of this reality. And that was the purpose of this final test. Yosef was shown clearly that he could NOT withstand this last time without clear divine intervention. He saw that he indeed would have fallen had Hashem not stopped him. And with this recognition, Yosef was able to achieve the "Bitul" that completed his Madrega, and through this he reached the high level of Tzadik Yesod Olam.

Wow!



But there's more...

The shiur went on to explain how this is the bechina of Moshiach ben Yosef. However, the Bechina of Moshiach ben Dovid required an even deeper internalization of this recognition, and that is why David Hamelech was actually brought to sin by Heaven. In order to reach the level needed for Moshiach ben David, he needed an even deeper recognition of this reality, and therefore he wasn't saved from the sin like Yosef was. He was brought to fall, and his Tikkun was accepting that it was brought about by Heaven. His struggle and test were not with the sin itself. That was preordained by Hashem. His test was what he would do AFTER the fall. David retained his faith and didn't fall into Yiush - even though the shechinah left him for 20 years afterwards! That was David's test - and his greatness.

The speaker then quoted from Rav Yechezkel Levinson, the Mashgiach of Ponovitch, who wrote in his sichos Mussar for Elul that everything that happens to us, including our sins, are really from Hashem. So Rav Yechezkel asks, if this is the case, what is asked of us? And he answers something amazing. I couldn't believe it when I heard it. He said that what is asked of us is only to come to the recognition that our falls are from Hashem. As long as we feel WE did the sin, we are far from our Tikkun. Our Teshuvah is nothing more and nothing less than coming to the true recognition that Hashem brought us to fall and not to give up. At that point we can have a true Teffilah to Hashem to take us back. The new "Retzonos" that we develop as a result of our fall, that is the real Teshuvah.

It is for this reason that all new spiritual levels are preceded by a fall. We need aYeridah Letzorech Aliyah to help us renew our "Retzonos" and yearning. Hashem doesn't need our great deeds and great strength in "overcoming tests". Instead, he wants our "Ratzon". And it often takes a fall for us to have a renewal of our spiritual "retzonos". When we are able to recognize that our climbs - and even our falls come from Hashem, we can rekindle our yearnings and cry out from the heart: "Father, take me back. I want You and nothing else!".


Just trust in Him you"ll help yourself that way

Re: Sad feelings 19 Apr 2012 16:05 #135930

5shekvow,

How are you doing?

Have you ever tried the Tapsik method?

Look it up at the GYE website.

Re: Sad feelings 19 Apr 2012 20:35 #135946

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very inspiring and thought provoking, emunah
thanks
במקום שבעלי תשובה עומדים אפילו צדיקים גמורים אינם עומדים

Re: Sad feelings 19 Apr 2012 22:45 #135951

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wow, that is exactly my situtation. I still need to ask hashem more to help me. Right, now im 4 days clean thank hashem. I really appreciate the dvar torah, and thankyou reb dovid for checking up on me!

Re: Sad feelings 22 Apr 2012 18:36 #136086

Keep strong my friend, there is no other option but to keep fighting or to surrender to G-D.

Re: Sad feelings 23 Apr 2012 01:39 #136101

Love the dvar Torah stay strong one day at a time we love you here and when one person falls its like we all fall so let's stay strong

Re: Sad feelings 23 Apr 2012 13:49 #136123

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one day at a time

Re: Sad feelings 24 Apr 2012 02:42 #136160

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Keep strong 5 you WILL get through with Hashem's help Shalom
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