Today I saw more images in the computer ..
I try but every site, there is a picture, I have to click it
I can not any more!

Sababa you are not the only one at all it is normal to want to see more pictures and think about the porn you saw.The question is why do you want to stop?It seems like it is not such a problem for you.You look then feel bad then look again.So why not keep on going.
these are questions that we must ask ourselves if we want to be motivated to change.What does it mean to us to be clean?If this is not clear we will not succeed.This is my am amaratzesdike opinion.

sababa wrote on 05 Aug 2011 07:42:


without a filter its like being in a room with a unclothed lady and saying don't look! of course we all would GET A FILTER its the only way, you can still "surf" but with the clean stuff.....

porn is like a lion in the cage, as long as the cage is locked you are the boss, but if there is a crack in the cage and the lion puts his paw out, then you are in real trouble, because he will attack you, not now but after an hour or so, therefore KEEP THE CAGE CLOSED AT ALL TIMES dont let a single crack to happen

Thanks guys, nice JackAbbey but
I woke up now and I see that I had 'wet dream, because for the pictures
That discourage me! Every two days I have 'wet dream'
I'm depressed, it's hard!
Hope not to fall, Friday and Saturday is the hardest for me
It's any good my clean days?
I don't know what to do
Bye my brothers

yo man wet dreams are nothing! its not in your control! your first thing is to fix the depressed attitude, read the attitude hand book. being depressed is worse then a fall bec it makes you a lot worse then a wet dream of one fall. the YH is attacking you in this way to make you feel low get up don't think about and start now!

My dear Sababa it is so amazing to see you keep on posting.If you are looking at pictures during the day why are you surprised to have wet dreams?I am not trying to criticize or judge you I am just asking because I care.

sometimes when you dont look at women in the street, you then think oh! they are so nice, so se*y, etc... and even if you didnt look, the image of some celeb comes in your mind, however if you think for a moment that at the times when you did look and stared at them they where nothing to get excited for, they did not cause you "wet dreams", so its just an illusion that because you did not look at her therefore the yetzer horo can make you imagine that who knows how nice she is, and the imagination has no limits, so its very important to understand that besides not looking at women its even more important not to bring the women in your brain, try for one day not to allow a single thought of anything of the sort, like the story of a barkeeper who closed his pub and later that night whan the customers came knocking at the door he answered them "I AM NO LONGER THAT OLD BARKEEPER" then you wont have anymore dreams, because the dreams follow the internal thoughts of the day to wander at night, try it and ask hashem with a few kapitlech of tehilim said slowly with a bit of kavono

Guys don't kill me but today I saw pictures of women ..
All Saturday I thought the pictures I don't want to fall!
Friends, I feel that the YH really hard and I want to see more photos,
I want to do that.I feel 'excited' and it takes me I think about women all day
Friends is hard!need help
Thanks

sababa wrote on 07 Aug 2011 10:21:


Sababa, nobody here is going to kill you.

But the way you are acting -you are killing yourself!

What actions are you taking to try and make sure that you stop looking at these pictures against your own best interests?

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Sababa it is perfectly normal to want to keep on looking at pictures.
Are you masterbating to them is there progress from a few days ago?
If there is not any progess then let me have some chutzpah and ask you this:
Why do you want to stop is it because you feel guillty and horrible after you do it?
What is so bad about feeling guilty and horrible,a few minutes or hours you will go look at more pics for some time and then you will feel good while you are looking at the pics.Some  half the time you feel good and half the time you feel bad.What is the big deal?

I started today but I managed to stop in the middle
I think it's best for me not being on the computer
But I still find it difficult in the street
I will try, even though it was 'exciting' me
Thank you my brothers

kol hakavod lcha.

Shalom Sababa,

Welcome to our community, you have finally come home!

We're all in the same boat here. Tzuras Rabim Chatzi Nechama   Once you've arrived, there's no turning back. Everyone here will just grab a hold of you and pull you up with them!

GYE Program in a Nutshell: (Right Click the link and press "Save Link/Target As" to save the PDF file to your computer).

'Guard Your Eyes' offers a unique approach to helping people by recognizing that there are many different levels in the struggle for "Shmiras Ainayim" and "Shmiras Habris". After studying the experience of hundreds of religious strugglers over the past few years, we put together the suggestions and recommendations that we feel are best for the various levels. We divided the tools, features and services that GYE offers into 8 different levels. This "GYE Program in a Nutshell can help people quickly identify at what level of the struggle they are at, and which tools and features would help them most at their particular level.

Here are some quick things you can do to help you jump straight into recovery:

1) Make sure to install a strong filter. It will be almost impossible to break free of this while having all the garbage within a mouse click away. See this page for one good filter option, along with instructions on how to install it best – and give away the password to our "filter Gabai"… See this page for another 20 (or so) filter ideas and information… We also highly advise installing "Reporting Software" such as webchaver.org to give you some accountability, because filters alone are usually not sufficient and they can often be bypassed.

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May Hashem be with you!

All the day I think about women!
It hard