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08 Feb 2016 19:35
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markz
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Mazel Tov and Welcome!
My feelings are with you!
Keep on Trucking!!
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08 Feb 2016 03:58
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markz
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Terrific!!
Keep on Trucking
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08 Feb 2016 03:30
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m58yiw84niym
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botty wrote on Unknown:
i am now at 50 days, its 4th time i start the 90 chart.
i feel i am close to fall. please help me, give me chizukim!! i need to feel i am not alone
TY!
Take it from some one who fell around that time (and even a bit past it), it's totally not worth the fleeting 'pleasure'...
Wanted to let you know that we're all here for you, and are all hoping and praying for your success in this difficult challenge! Please reach out on the forum if there's anything we can do here for you, and remember, d on't give up and Keep On Trucking!
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08 Feb 2016 01:41
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heiligeryid
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[quote="markz" post=276952 date=1454865074"]This may help
[quote="yechidah" post=29476 date="]Dear friends,
I saw in shul a copy of a letter,
Written by a Rebbe to one of his Chasidim,
I do not know which Rebbe it is,
The top of the page said “Mili D’Avos”
And it was written in Yiddish
Here is the nekudah of the letter,
For a Yid to go to the Mikvah before davening,
It is not a mitzvah,
But what Mikvah could bring to you,
Even the greatest Mitzvah cannot bring.
Same with Depression (Atzvus),
It is not a sin,
But the blocking of the heart,
That Depression can cause,
Even the greatest sins cannot cause.
Now there is a difference between Merirus (Bitterness) and Atzvus (Depression),
Merirus is a true broken heart,
Depression is something very different then that,
You fall there into a daze and a haze,
You cannot tolerate yourself,
You cannot tolerate others,
There is a heavy weight on your heart,
Cannot do anything.
Very sharp with yourself,
Even disgusted
Merirus is Proactive (versus Depression’s Reactive)
Does not let you sleep,
Into that deep slumber of Despair,
Just the opposite
Merirus jolts you into action,
You didn’t even start yet,
So seize the moment in Prayer,
Grab a minute for learning,
Rejoice in finding a friend,
And be happy to help him,
This is Merirus,
ProActive in that bitter state,
That ultimately leads to Simcha.
So after a Fall,
How do you know that you are experiencing
The Healthy Bitterness,
And not the Unhealthy Depression?
It’s what happens right after the fall.
Do you fall into lethargy,
Or do you spring up and proactively fight and fight,
To become a better person.
[/quote]
Keep on Trucking
It's from Reb Aron of Karlin Ztz"l The Bais Aharon
[/quote]
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08 Feb 2016 00:07
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markz
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Simon,
What I would do if i was in your situation is - take one small step this week.
I mean really small
Not for my sake, not for Gd's sake
For your sake
Something that you feel can get you out of this rut
Please keep us posted - Ill be thinking about you
Keep On Trucking
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07 Feb 2016 17:11
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markz
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This may help
[quote="yechidah" post=29476 date="]Dear friends,
I saw in shul a copy of a letter,
Written by a Rebbe to one of his Chasidim,
I do not know which Rebbe it is,
The top of the page said “Mili D’Avos”
And it was written in Yiddish
Here is the nekudah of the letter,
For a Yid to go to the Mikvah before davening,
It is not a mitzvah,
But what Mikvah could bring to you,
Even the greatest Mitzvah cannot bring.
Same with Depression (Atzvus),
It is not a sin,
But the blocking of the heart,
That Depression can cause,
Even the greatest sins cannot cause.
Now there is a difference between Merirus (Bitterness) and Atzvus (Depression),
Merirus is a true broken heart,
Depression is something very different then that,
You fall there into a daze and a haze,
You cannot tolerate yourself,
You cannot tolerate others,
There is a heavy weight on your heart,
Cannot do anything.
Very sharp with yourself,
Even disgusted
Merirus is Proactive (versus Depression’s Reactive)
Does not let you sleep,
Into that deep slumber of Despair,
Just the opposite
Merirus jolts you into action,
You didn’t even start yet,
So seize the moment in Prayer,
Grab a minute for learning,
Rejoice in finding a friend,
And be happy to help him,
This is Merirus,
ProActive in that bitter state,
That ultimately leads to Simcha.
So after a Fall,
How do you know that you are experiencing
The Healthy Bitterness,
And not the Unhealthy Depression?
It’s what happens right after the fall.
Do you fall into lethargy,
Or do you spring up and proactively fight and fight,
To become a better person.
[/quote]
Keep on Trucking
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05 Feb 2016 18:31
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markz
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Mr Clean
Day 42
I'm impressed!!
You have a monstah muffler drivin on the highway, and we don't even hear you!
Keep on Trucking!!!!!!
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05 Feb 2016 03:51
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markz
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KEEP ON TRUCKING...
UNLESS YOU HAD OTHER PLANS
What did he do wr ong? He wasn't in the left lane...
FELL SHMELL?
KOT
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03 Feb 2016 13:12
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markz
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Amazing
KEEP on Trucking!!!
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01 Feb 2016 22:12
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cordnoy
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iwant2begood wrote on 01 Feb 2016 21:57:
Day 47. Bh I had an awesome day today learnt shtark, davened well, and socialized. I hope this continues. My biggest fear is what If I c"v have a fall again?? Am I gonna have to go through all that hell again??! But I'm not worrying because I'm letting hashem control my life and when I give over control to him he gives me the power to be sober just for today!. Keep on trucking!!
I'm curious if you can elaborate please: you give c ontrol to Him, and He gives you the power. How does that work please? I am not questi onin'.....I am merely askin'. Thank you.
C ontinued hatzlachah
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01 Feb 2016 21:57
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iwant2begood
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Day 47. Bh I had an awesome day today learnt shtark, davened well, and socialized. I hope this continues. My biggest fear is what If I c"v have a fall again?? Am I gonna have to go through all that hell again??! But I'm not worrying because I'm letting hashem control my life and when I give over control to him he gives me the power to be sober just for today!. Keep on trucking!!
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01 Feb 2016 11:55
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markz
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Welcome!!!!
I'm not very well versed on the rules of the chart - guardyoureyes.com/90-days-chart/rules
What I try to do every day is to focus on being clean today!
FSKOT
(Fell Shmell Keep on Trucking)
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29 Jan 2016 17:45
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Shlomo24
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9494 wrote on 29 Jan 2016 15:54:
OK, that would make sense then. Thanks for the clarification!
Just to add my 2 cents. I have found through my personal experience that it is not always just enough to "share" the lust I am experiencing with another on GYE. Sharing does not NECESSARILY equal surrender. Sharing has to stem from a desire to be free of the lust and bring it to the light. Often "sharing" can be serving another purpose altogether and can actually be harmful and destructive.
Am I whining about the trigger or do I genuinely want to be free of it?
Am I just complaining?
Am I trying to get some self pity?
Am I trying to justify why I might act out?
Am I justifying why I feel lustful at the moment?
Am I doing it to dump my guilt?
Am I doing it so that I get a pat on the back and a "keep on trucking"?
Am I doing it for sexual gratification?
I know for myself that often in the past (and even now still occasionally) my sharing on the GYE chat, whatsapp and hangout was for the purpose of whining, justifying and to receive self pity. Others who know me a bit better can testify to this - especially Cordnoy, who has helped me realise this.
However, I have found that when I share over the phone it is more likely to be genuine. It is me taking responsibility. If I am willing to go through the seemingly awkward and difficult motion of picking up the phone and sharing with a live person then I genuinely want to be set free of it and have G-d remove it.
I am so maskim, I deal with this almost daily. Sometimes I make a resentment much bigger then it really is by calling a bunch of people about it. I obsess over the stupidest things.
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29 Jan 2016 16:11
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cordnoy
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9494 wrote on 29 Jan 2016 15:54:
OK, that would make sense then. Thanks for the clarification!
Just to add my 2 cents. I have found through my personal experience that it is not always just enough to "share" the lust I am experiencing with another on GYE. Sharing does not NECESSARILY equal surrender. Sharing has to stem from a desire to be free of the lust and bring it to the light. Often "sharing" can be serving another purpose altogether and can actually be harmful and destructive.
Am I whining about the trigger or do I genuinely want to be free of it?
Am I just complaining?
Am I trying to get some self pity?
Am I trying to justify why I might act out?
Am I justifying why I feel lustful at the moment?
Am I doing it to dump my guilt?
Am I doing it so that I get a pat on the back and a "keep on trucking"?
Am I doing it for sexual gratification?
I know for myself that often in the past (and even now still occasionally) my sharing on the GYE chat, whatsapp and hangout was for the purpose of whining, justifying and to receive self pity. Others who know me a bit better can testify to this - especially Cordnoy, who has helped me realise this.
However, I have found that when I share over the phone it is more likely to be genuine. It is me taking responsibility. If I am willing to go through the seemingly awkward and difficult motion of picking up the phone and sharing with a live person then I genuinely want to be set free of it and have G-d remove it.
Great stuff.
Good thinkin'.
And strangely enough, I actually remember tellin' you that.
C ontinued hatzlachah
Toto
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29 Jan 2016 14:02
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Workingguy
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Fall or slip? They have a saying here "Fell, she'll, keep on trucking". What does it matter? For a lot of people, being too caught up on the definition is because if it's a fall, they are "out" so they may as well act out a little more before they restart counting or being sober again. Don't let that happen to you. Decide that fall or slip, it's all toward the same goal and that neither one is a license to act out.
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