13 Dec 2016 14:45
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Markz
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LifneiHashem wrote on 13 Dec 2016 00:46:
Hello, it's been a little while but I just wanted to check in with a few updates:
1) spiders are far more interesting than hyenas.
2) today is day 100. I vote to change 90 day chart to 100 days. It has a better ring to it.
Shlomo will say 1 day has a nicer ring to it
You're doing great
KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!!
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12 Dec 2016 01:31
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Markz
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Gertaman1 wrote on 11 Dec 2016 23:28:
Thanks Cordnoy - more on my story. I grew up secular and have a long story of how I became more religious. Shmrias habris has been one large chunk of this growth story. I have tried many many things to try to stop and made many fences for myself before. I tried to not touch myself at all, then not to see shmutz and put all of these things around myself, but nothing every worked. I find that learning about Shmiras Habris and increasing my learning in general has helped in so many ways. Now finding GYE with amazing ways to grow and kick the habit (TaPHSiC method specifically) is helping me a lot. I find that the urge for me is really just a temporary urge and once I find ways to distract myself (doing some push-ups, learning Torah, calling someone) I find that the urge is gone and I can get back to feeling like a great Jew.
I don't feel like a hypocrite anymore and am working to continue to build fences and strengthen myself in the growth.
Welcome!
Great going - serious!
You say ' calling someone'. Is that about the weather, or another recovering sex addict?
Perhaps Taphsic will work for you for l onger than 5 days, who knows.
If it doesn't, we have a whole team of legal experts with the credentials to c onsider it null and void and get you into real recovery
Keep on Trucking or Tricycling with Dov ++
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09 Dec 2016 20:19
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Markz
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I think one of the beautiful less ons of the an onymous forum is that when some one like me wants to get free of lust, it's earthly possible to do that without ruining my reputati on in my community.
Joining an SA ( sex anonymous) meeting in my community can have the same zero impact on my social standing as this an onymous forum, so if that's what's g onna fire my truck - why not
But some people prefer to hide behind veils of secrecy, and often have their reputati ons ruined in any case - so... each man to his own!
As the Rebbe Bards says and here's the musical versi on " Keep on Trucking"
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07 Dec 2016 09:25
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Singularity
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Markz wrote on 06 Dec 2016 19:46:
Chaim Parnes wrote on 06 Dec 2016 19:39:
Just Because you asked.
i'm a simple person with regular struggles.
basically once a month i get addicted klutzing away for some cute/music videos,
i'm working on my self to actually once and for all install my filter and that should be the end of it.
I did that too
And that was the end of it
The end of the filter
But that's only cos me and filtergeek like loopholing. Maybe it will work for you
Either way KEEP ON TRUCKING
Haha
Oh how I envy the regular strugglers  May that be your rock bottom!
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06 Dec 2016 19:46
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Markz
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Chaim Parnes wrote on 06 Dec 2016 19:39:
Just Because you asked.
i'm a simple person with regular struggles.
basically once a month i get addicted klutzing away for some cute/music videos,
i'm working on my self to actually once and for all install my filter and that should be the end of it.
I did that too
And that was the end of it
The end of the filter
But that's only cos me and filtergeek like loopholing. Maybe it will work for you
Either way KEEP ON TRUCKING
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02 Dec 2016 15:16
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Markz
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Great to hear you took on those commitmentso
Keep drinking HonesTEA
And of course Keep on Trucking!
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24 Nov 2016 05:31
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Markz
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Darling brother
my impressi on from your posts is that you have been acting out for the last few years
If your wife is witholding sex from you because she feels
- You're unfaithful
- When you're intimate with her, it's to fill your lust needs
Then perhaps she's justified.
Are you separating from her? Why would you cut her benefits?
If anything, up her allocati ons, start treating her better, since she's your partner for life. She could've dropped you ages ago.
Many of us have found that when we work on our marriage things improve
Work by yourself on your sobriety as you began here and you can find tremendous relief
Later down the line you can c onsider your intimacy situati on. But for now? Dov says a few m onths of no sex for some guys is actually a good thing. It's easier for you to do that than for some other guys.
Even better try to reach out to Dov or some other sober gyes here
KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!!!
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24 Nov 2016 00:06
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Yosef Tikun HaYesod
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I want to restrain and succeed and finally pass this nisayon!
I am sick of failing 12 times a year. I don't want to fail at all. And frankly, it's disheartening doing teshuva, convincing myself that I will restrain my tyvahs and not give in next time. And then proceed to fail at predictable intervals throughout the year! Especially because I know that if I can figure this test out and "study for it beforehand", I can pass this test. And once I pass this test a few times, I know that it will get easier to pass it in the future. And before long, I will not be regularly failing, but succeeding the whole year...and then two years...and then, I anticipate and look forward to being able to help others succeed as well.
And to be very clear, I am not talking about JUST stopping wasting seed. I am looking to greatly strengthen my relationship with HaShem. Finally passing this nisayon for good will completely turn my life around. It has been holding me back spiritually for over 20 years.
And passing this nisayon will help my connection and closeness to HaShem, my marriage (automatically), my learning, my davening, my parnasa, and my children (giving them the ability to pass difficult nisyonos in their lives, through the "spiritual DNA" principle discussed by Rabbi Wallerstein). So, I'm all in, and I really want to win this year. I haven't come to terms with it and made peace with it...oh well, keep on trucking, it happens several times a year, just move on, no big deal. I haven't given up. It's not hopeless. I am still fighting, though I've been punched and knocked down so many times. And this time, I will, B'ezras HaShem, stick to it, control my behavior, and become an eved HaShem. This can be the start of my being clean for good. It's possible. Everyone's 19 years clean (and counting) started somewhere...and that was it...no more yo-yo-ing, no more failures, no more backslides, no more slipups...no more 12 times a year nonsense. I can do it. And some of you reading this can help me succeed.
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23 Nov 2016 13:47
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Markz
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Yosef Tikun HaYesod wrote:
I appreciate Una's post, and will post a response some time later when I have time.
I don't understand hardly a word of Cord's post.
Frankly, I am constantly feeling "attacked" here. And I don't know why.
And I feel that the terminology being used is a big part of it.
I think this should be a safe, welcoming space to get help, no matter what your struggle is or whatever number you are on the spectrum.
The only reas on these loving people are commenting is because they care!
And since they care is why they wanted to notify you that in their experience sp onsorship has very low success rate
This is the welcoming space to get help!!
I assume you're referring to an onymous sp onsorship
So let me tell you something
There is this guy that refuses to open up to some one real and was valiantly looking for sp onsorship
I decided to be nice and accept his request
I emailed him... Got gye reports about his week clean streak and all his falls...
IT WAS ALL EFFORTS IN FUTILITY
And this is a guy that lost at least one job due to porn
Such an an onymous form of support is more an onymous than your doorpost, and IMHO less productive than this forum
You wanna keep barking down that street? No one g onna stop you.
You want to get real sober?
Read each gye's story (see the free lust towing page for links - skip the link to cordnoys cos it's under c onstructi on - I hope he asked the dev to fix it)
See what works, get on the bandwag on and KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!
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22 Nov 2016 17:34
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Markz
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Workingguy wrote on 22 Nov 2016 15:30:
I don't know why I'm bothering again, but oh well. Let's give it a try.
Here's my intro. 12 Steps is great if it works for you, and whatever works for you, go for it. But-and this is a big deal- don't preach the twelve steps as being true, because there is nothing about them that has been proved true.
Go look up the five most effective ways to beat addiction in studies, go look at the comparison of CBT effectiveness vs 12 steps, go look for the proof that there is really scientific eveidence of a brain disease, go look at how many addicts spontaneously achieve sobriety, go watch Markz rat park video which is specifically making the point that we have the addiction theory all wrong and that when we give addicts a better life they will do better with addiction and when we shake and blame they will do worse. Go look up Gabor Mate and Stanton Peele.
Even if you're not into studies, stats, or any of the above, there is enough counter evidence to the brain disease model- and there is also enough evidence that the disease model actually makes some people relapse more- that it shouldn't be tossed around as a fact. Sometimes I get the feeling that some people think GYE is just an extension of SA; I get the feeling too sometimes- but it's not. I've gone to many therapists (too many $$$) who are not proponents of 12 steps, and some who are not because they believe it is the solution but because they believe it is a great program for personal growth (one therapist who had been in 12 steps for fifteen years told me that he takes the good parts and doesn't believe the rest.
Again, if it works for you, go for it, but please don't shove it down everyone elses's throat as a fact.
The reason I used to masturbate and watch pornography is I was bored, lonely, sad, and full off shame, and it was geshmak, and I blamed my life on my wife. The reason why I don't for now is because I've done a lot of healing.
The reason why I could fall after ninety days or ten years proves nothing about a disease. I can stop biting my nails for years, as I did, and bite after seven years and before I know it, I'm biting again. Same with a million other habits. Same with Lashon Hara, kaas, overeating- habits re part of your brain, and once you acquire them it is super hard to break ANY habit. That doesn't mean you have a disease; it means you made a big mistake to acquire that habit in the first place, and of course you'll be more susceptible than someone who never had the habit, but that proves nothing.
To sum up- maybe one has a brain disease, maybe one doesn't, maybe there is such a thing, maybe there isn't. Please be careful how you state it as fact. And allow everyone whatever works for them, of course including 12 steps.
Peace out; sorry for the rant but this has been brewing for a long time.
I think Cord' used to have a message
"No tea? Try coffee"
Whatever that was - it was brewed very very well and a good share too
If any one needs, the "Rat park" video WG Menti oned is hiding in the spoiler butt on below.
KEEP ON TRUCKING!!
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21 Nov 2016 14:34
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Markz
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We are not here to clean up the mess we made
Gd decides what gets cleaned up and when
Also it's tremendous inspiration for guys to read threads and see progress, and yours was very very fast - Ashrecha!!
Its our job to KEEP ON TRUCKING and you're doing awesome!
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14 Nov 2016 11:23
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Markz
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Hi FG, great move!!!
KEEP ON TRUCKING!
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04 Nov 2016 20:06
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Markz
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Sorry to hear
Shabbos is a time of re-focusing. Maybe printout the handbook to read over Shabbos and put sticky notes where you feel inspired. Some dov quotes too will be fun to read
Then after Shabbos lets keep the momentum going
KEEP ON TRUCKING!!
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30 Oct 2016 06:54
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Markz
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Brother there are so many combinati on of factors that apply to each one of us, that it's not really the right road to compare one guy who slipped after 90 days to another. And therefore to base your sobriety on some one else's TRUCK manual isn't always g onna work.
Some are FFB, some are BT like yourself, some were introduced to dirty stuff by bad friends, but some were abused in their childhood.
Theres many more variables, eg pers onality type (see my story), which is why I would not go down that road
I needed sobriety, Gd showed me Gye, and I'm doing what I pers onally need for my Trucking.
I hope you find what works for you too. Check "soluti ons" below, and maybe read some Dov quotes too which are found on the Free Towing page
All the best and Keep on Trucking
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