04 Jan 2017 21:21
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Watson
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Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook. No two people are the same, every one has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the soluti on too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to every one. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.
This is a very comm on problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situati on got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that c onclusi on about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.
So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
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04 Jan 2017 20:42
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Watson
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Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook. No two people are the same, every one has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the soluti on too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to every one. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.
This is a very comm on problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situati on got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that c onclusi on about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.
So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
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04 Jan 2017 20:39
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Watson
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Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook. No two people are the same, every one has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the soluti on too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to every one. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.
This is a very comm on problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situati on got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that c onclusi on about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.
So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
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04 Jan 2017 20:36
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Watson
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Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook. No two people are the same, every one has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the soluti on too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to every one. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.
This is a very comm on problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situati on got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that c onclusi on about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.
So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
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03 Jan 2017 23:58
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Trouble
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Markz wrote on 03 Jan 2017 20:27:
Trouble wrote:
everchange wrote:
All of my posts so far are from my own thinking.
If you have a problem with it then you don't have
read them. I am simply trying to give chizuk in
new ways that people haven't heard of before.
If my posts aren't material that give chizuk than I
can remove them.
Also why are you and the guard copying my post?
I can't tell if its an inside joke or if its a mockery
that I am presenting my own chidushim instead of
quoting from a sefer.
This is true indeed. One is not obligated to read them. I pointed out that if one uses his own thinking of two similar words, he can come up with anything, hence nothing.
1) Everchange - please keep on Trucking and disregard the hecklers
2) Trouble, our thinking is what brought many of us onto this forum, and we are still stuck in our own thinking and therefore getting nowhere with breaking free
Mark, your sec ond point was exactly my point. One who is stuck in his own thinking might be getting nowhere.
That was Dov's initial point as well. Once you are on your own, anything becomes fair game.
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03 Jan 2017 20:27
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Markz
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Trouble wrote:
everchange wrote:
All of my posts so far are from my own thinking.
If you have a problem with it then you don't have
read them. I am simply trying to give chizuk in
new ways that people haven't heard of before.
If my posts aren't material that give chizuk than I
can remove them.
Also why are you and the guard copying my post?
I can't tell if its an inside joke or if its a mockery
that I am presenting my own chidushim instead of
quoting from a sefer.
This is true indeed. One is not obligated to read them. I pointed out that if one uses his own thinking of two similar words, he can come up with anything, hence nothing.
1) Everchange - please keep on Trucking and disregard the hecklers
2) Trouble, our thinking is what brought many of us onto this forum, and we are still stuck in our own thinking and therefore getting nowhere with breaking free
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03 Jan 2017 18:42
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Watson
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Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook. No two people are the same, every one has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the soluti on too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to every one. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.
This is a very comm on problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situati on got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that c onclusi on about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.
So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
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03 Jan 2017 18:42
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Watson
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Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook. No two people are the same, every one has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the soluti on too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to every one. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.
This is a very comm on problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situati on got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that c onclusi on about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.
So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
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03 Jan 2017 09:31
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Singularity
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cordnoy wrote on 02 Jan 2017 11:11:
Watson wrote on 01 Jan 2017 23:44:
Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all I apreciate that you've read the GYE handbook. No two people are the same, every one has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the soluti on too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to every one. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and me own life.
This is a very comm on problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situati on got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that c onclusi on about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.
So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
Well said.
Well automated
shhh!!!
Welcome aboard, partner!
Your end is really just your beginning.
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03 Jan 2017 02:35
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Markz
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I'm humbled to meet you, and can't wait to hear more here and on the pending Rabbi Miller thread
Im a chasid of his so that makes me one of you too ;-)
Keep on trucking with the speakers blasting!
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02 Jan 2017 15:56
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cordnoy
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Markz wrote on 02 Jan 2017 15:48:
dschim wrote:
am new to this... i succeed in stopping for a few weeks but then fall back again into watching porn. Stopping at the beginning is really tough, and i guess this time i wanted to do it in a structured way to help...
Stopping is one tool but not the only one. Some people have a hard time with that tool
BH you have succeeded with it, now it's time to move onto the next tool as I and many others have
KEEP ON TRUCKING!!
The white book calls stoppin' step zero.
It is not a tool; it is a prerequisite.
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02 Jan 2017 15:48
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Markz
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dschim wrote:
am new to this... i succeed in stopping for a few weeks but then fall back again into watching porn. Stopping at the beginning is really tough, and i guess this time i wanted to do it in a structured way to help...
Stopping is one tool but not the only one. Some people have a hard time with that tool
BH you have succeeded with it, now it's time to move onto the next tool as I and many others have
KEEP ON TRUCKING!!
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02 Jan 2017 13:58
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Watson
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Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook. No two people are the same, every one has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the soluti on too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to every one. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.
This is a very comm on problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situati on got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that c onclusi on about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.
So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
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02 Jan 2017 11:16
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Yosef Tikun HaYesod
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I've been reading around a lot. And the best quote I found is Wats on's:
"Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook. No two people are the same, every one has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the soluti on too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to every one. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and me own life.
This is a very comm on problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situati on got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that c onclusi on about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.
So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking."
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I let youtube in the door to get new music for Chanuka,
and then football highlights, and then news, and then well, you guessed it...
an unhealthy look at body parts.
Closed the door now hopefully for good.
Caught myself in time not to fall further, but feel like a fool regardless.
No streaming is difficult and restrictive, but doesn't let the yetzer hara in the door.
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Life is good.
We have to just keep on learning and improving and upping our game,
so that we d on't fall for the same dumb tricks it has suckered us into in the past.
Have a great day!
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02 Jan 2017 11:11
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cordnoy
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Watson wrote on 01 Jan 2017 23:44:
Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all I apreciate that you've read the GYE handbook. No two people are the same, every one has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the soluti on too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to every one. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and me own life.
This is a very comm on problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situati on got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that c onclusi on about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.
So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
Well said.
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