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15 Feb 2017 01:49

Yosef Tikun HaYesod

Here is something that Watson is fond of writing when he welcomes someone new. Please read it (and my whole post in its entirety twice)...(I read yours twice before deciding to comment and once more before deciding to hit submit. I think you probably meant well, but I can't help how I feel receiving your post):
"Welcome. You're in the right place.
First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook.  No two people are the same, everyone has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the solution too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to everyone. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.

This is a very common problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situation got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.

So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking."
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He has got 1235 posts! But you know better.
Yeah, there is some concern and care that comes through from your post, and I appreciate that.
But MAN, I read your post twice, and thought about what Workingguy wrote, and still can't believe
the incredible chutzpah you have to suggest (or even to think) that my problems are less important than anybody else's. That I don't belong here. My little problems don't measure up somehow to the big boys. Simply unbelievable!
I just fell hard. And then picked myself back up again and had the courage to be open and honest about it, and wrote a post on my own thread to get a little pick-me-up and chizuk.
You can't say a few lines of comfort and encouragement like Gevura did? He's got 3321 posts! But you know better. He is a genius at it and usually adds a little levity (the joke about forgetting Nashim not being such a bad idea). No, you've got to ask 20 questions. And I answered them.
Your 2nd to the last post crossed a little over the line, and I called you out on it. Now, maybe say some encouraging words or leave it alone. No, you've got to tell me my problems are insignificant compared to others, and that I am in a virtual room of addicts where I don't belong. Doesn't matter what Watson says or what Guard says, right? You know better. What an unbelievable chutzpah!

Enough about the first half of your last post. I'll end with this.
You give me your advice in your second half of the post. Yet here's what I wrote on Jan. 27th:
What I am looking for at this point is just a friendly, safe place to share my experiences
as I journey toward successfully breaking free from this terrible bad habit...
a place to receive encouragement to continue growing and pushing forward,
a place where people who share some idea of the difficulty of the nisayon I'm going through
are willing to hear me out and express their understanding and empathy,
and try to pick me up and support me, so that I don't give up and totally fail.
I'll work out the strategies/game plan on my own from now on, with the help of a live coach/success story.

Enjoy this great dvar Torah from R. Yechiel Spero from a Sefer Emunah Bacharti:
"There is a difference between the term "Melacha" that we refer to when we talk about the 39 things that one is not allowed to do on shabbos, and the term "Avodah". Avodah, hard work is not forbidden. For instance, if one wanted or needed to schlep tables and chairs from the third floor to the first floor, it's entirely permissible, even though you are sweating and working hard. However, if one does a creative action, that is called a melacha and that is strictly forbidden on Shabbos.
But that's when it comes to Shabbos.
Hashem, when He asks us to serve Him, it is not called melacha. It is called avodah. We strive to be "Avdei Hashem", we work on our avodas Hashem. Hashem does not need us to do creative things for Him. He doesn't demand of us to finish product. He doesn't necessitate that we do something that is called a melacha. We don't actually have to finish the job necessarily. All Hashem asks of us, is to be an Eved Hashem. To shvitz for the Ribono Shel Olam; to work hard at whatever we are dong. We might succeed, hopefully, we do. But even if we don't, it is still considered to very, very valued and very special in the eyes of Hakadosh Baruch Hu.
That should give us all great encouragement. Sometimes we feel, "C'mon who are we kidding. I am far from perfect". Hashem doesn't need you to be perfect. All He needs you to do is some avodas Hashem, to be His Eved Hashem. Halivay, if one day we can actually earn that incredible appellation."
13 Feb 2017 21:19

Watson

Welcome. You're in the right place.

First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook.  No two people are the same, everyone has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the solution too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to everyone. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.

This is a very common problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situation got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.

So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
Category: Introduce Yourself
12 Feb 2017 15:30

Watson

Welcome back. You're in the right place.

First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook.  No two people are the same, everyone has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the solution too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to everyone. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.

This is a very common problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situation got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.

So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
11 Feb 2017 20:41

Watson

Welcome. You're in the right place.

First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook.  No two people are the same, everyone has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the solution too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to everyone. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.

This is a very common problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situation got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.

So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
11 Feb 2017 20:41

Watson

Welcome. You're in the right place.

First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook.  No two people are the same, everyone has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the solution too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to everyone. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.

This is a very common problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situation got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.

So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
10 Feb 2017 01:48

Markz

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 09 Feb 2017 08:12:

Markz wrote on 09 Feb 2017 02:38:

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 08 Feb 2017 12:59:

cordnoy wrote on 08 Feb 2017 04:36:
Forget the addict question.

What are you doin' to change?

And please don't say, "I'm not lookin' at porn and I'm postin'," for that's not inner change.


for inner change I'm trying to be honest with myself about my ego anger and self esteem figuring out when and why I get angry/egoistic and working on these middos thru mussar and talking to friends and family.
Also listened to the chossen shmuzzen by R' Fuerman(or however you spell it) also downloading and listening to Dov's calls and reading the different advice found here and trying to decide what works for me from all of these places.
Is there something else  should try?

(From a later post) True having a mentor or rebbe to talk to is a good thing but so far I have made very good progress by talking to my wife parents and friends and I see no reason why this cannot continue to work.


Thank you for takking time to help me

Can we have a convo. Do you mind if I inquire my dear brother what's goin on
  1. Can you explain working on these middos thru mussar. What does that mean exactly
  2. "figuring out when and why I get angry/egoistic". Im clueless how to do that myself. How are you managing
  3. "Talking to my wife parents and friends" about the weather? About porn?

All the best - my brother!!

GET YOUR SNOW TRUCK OUT AND KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!


1) learning the basic seforim (sha'aray t'shuvah m'seilas y'sharim orchos tzadikim)  about each midda then understanding in a practical way how they apply to me and where I am holding with them and then 

2) looking back after I get angry or whatever what happened why did I act like that what mentality did I have that should be changed or my outlook at situations or people
The biggest challenge for me is not looking down at people for the faults that I see for I probably have bigger faults than them 

3) about my middos and where I am holding with my lusts (am I down,up,need soe help....)

is this what you wanted to clarify 
thank you all for helping me express this

#1) Can just make someone more depressed sometimes
#2) Can help lower your self esteem
#3) Talking my wife's parents about my lust and middos, is a good way to ruin my day

All in all a recipe for lust to flourish. oh ok you're a strong guy and manage to hold back... but it's a thin rope that can snap at any given moment

Hey I'm trying to throw you a rope! Catch!!!

(disclaimer: I'm only taking about what does and doesn't work for me. It does not reflect on other Truckers, Janitors, Moderators, Affirmed second cousins of non addicts or their families)
09 Feb 2017 18:34

MayanHamisgaber

cordnoy wrote on 09 Feb 2017 13:34:

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 09 Feb 2017 08:12:

Markz wrote on 09 Feb 2017 02:38:

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 08 Feb 2017 12:59:

cordnoy wrote on 08 Feb 2017 04:36:
Forget the addict question.

What are you doin' to change?

And please don't say, "I'm not lookin' at porn and I'm postin'," for that's not inner change.


for inner change I'm trying to be honest with myself about my ego anger and self esteem figuring out when and why I get angry/egoistic and working on these middos thru mussar and talking to friends and family.
Also listened to the chossen shmuzzen by R' Fuerman(or however you spell it) also downloading and listening to Dov's calls and reading the different advice found here and trying to decide what works for me from all of these places.
Is there something else  should try?

(From a later post) True having a mentor or rebbe to talk to is a good thing but so far I have made very good progress by talking to my wife parents and friends and I see no reason why this cannot continue to work.


Thank you for takking time to help me

Can we have a convo. Do you mind if I inquire my dear brother what's goin on
  1. Can you explain working on these middos thru mussar. What does that mean exactly
  2. "figuring out when and why I get angry/egoistic". Im clueless how to do that myself. How are you managing
  3. "Talking to my wife parents and friends" about the weather? About porn?

All the best - my brother!!

GET YOUR SNOW TRUCK OUT AND KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!


1) learning the basic seforim (sha'aray t'shuvah m'seilas y'sharim orchos tzadikim)  about each midda then understanding in a practical way how they apply to me and where I am holding with them and then 

2) looking back after I get angry or whatever what happened why did I act like that what mentality did I have that should be changed or my outlook at situations or people
The biggest challenge for me is not looking down at people for the faults that I see for I probably have bigger faults than them 

3) about my middos and where I am holding with my lusts (am I down,up,need soe help....)

is this what you wanted to clarify 
thank you all for helping me express this

Very nice.

Perhaps do a search for a 4th step resentment sheet. It might prove to be beneficial.

Continued hatzlachah


thanks does this mean you think I am an addict?
09 Feb 2017 13:34

cordnoy

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 09 Feb 2017 08:12:

Markz wrote on 09 Feb 2017 02:38:

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 08 Feb 2017 12:59:

cordnoy wrote on 08 Feb 2017 04:36:
Forget the addict question.

What are you doin' to change?

And please don't say, "I'm not lookin' at porn and I'm postin'," for that's not inner change.


for inner change I'm trying to be honest with myself about my ego anger and self esteem figuring out when and why I get angry/egoistic and working on these middos thru mussar and talking to friends and family.
Also listened to the chossen shmuzzen by R' Fuerman(or however you spell it) also downloading and listening to Dov's calls and reading the different advice found here and trying to decide what works for me from all of these places.
Is there something else  should try?

(From a later post) True having a mentor or rebbe to talk to is a good thing but so far I have made very good progress by talking to my wife parents and friends and I see no reason why this cannot continue to work.


Thank you for takking time to help me

Can we have a convo. Do you mind if I inquire my dear brother what's goin on
  1. Can you explain working on these middos thru mussar. What does that mean exactly
  2. "figuring out when and why I get angry/egoistic". Im clueless how to do that myself. How are you managing
  3. "Talking to my wife parents and friends" about the weather? About porn?

All the best - my brother!!

GET YOUR SNOW TRUCK OUT AND KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!


1) learning the basic seforim (sha'aray t'shuvah m'seilas y'sharim orchos tzadikim)  about each midda then understanding in a practical way how they apply to me and where I am holding with them and then 

2) looking back after I get angry or whatever what happened why did I act like that what mentality did I have that should be changed or my outlook at situations or people
The biggest challenge for me is not looking down at people for the faults that I see for I probably have bigger faults than them 

3) about my middos and where I am holding with my lusts (am I down,up,need soe help....)

is this what you wanted to clarify 
thank you all for helping me express this

Very nice.

Perhaps do a search for a 4th step resentment sheet. It might prove to be beneficial.

Continued hatzlachah
09 Feb 2017 08:12

MayanHamisgaber

Markz wrote on 09 Feb 2017 02:38:

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 08 Feb 2017 12:59:

cordnoy wrote on 08 Feb 2017 04:36:
Forget the addict question.

What are you doin' to change?

And please don't say, "I'm not lookin' at porn and I'm postin'," for that's not inner change.


for inner change I'm trying to be honest with myself about my ego anger and self esteem figuring out when and why I get angry/egoistic and working on these middos thru mussar and talking to friends and family.
Also listened to the chossen shmuzzen by R' Fuerman(or however you spell it) also downloading and listening to Dov's calls and reading the different advice found here and trying to decide what works for me from all of these places.
Is there something else  should try?

(From a later post) True having a mentor or rebbe to talk to is a good thing but so far I have made very good progress by talking to my wife parents and friends and I see no reason why this cannot continue to work.


Thank you for takking time to help me

Can we have a convo. Do you mind if I inquire my dear brother what's goin on
  1. Can you explain working on these middos thru mussar. What does that mean exactly
  2. "figuring out when and why I get angry/egoistic". Im clueless how to do that myself. How are you managing
  3. "Talking to my wife parents and friends" about the weather? About porn?

All the best - my brother!!

GET YOUR SNOW TRUCK OUT AND KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!


1) learning the basic seforim (sha'aray t'shuvah m'seilas y'sharim orchos tzadikim)  about each midda then understanding in a practical way how they apply to me and where I am holding with them and then 

2) looking back after I get angry or whatever what happened why did I act like that what mentality did I have that should be changed or my outlook at situations or people
The biggest challenge for me is not looking down at people for the faults that I see for I probably have bigger faults than them 

3) about my middos and where I am holding with my lusts (am I down,up,need soe help....)

is this what you wanted to clarify 
thank you all for helping me express this
09 Feb 2017 02:38

Markz

MayanHamisgaber wrote on 08 Feb 2017 12:59:

cordnoy wrote on 08 Feb 2017 04:36:
Forget the addict question.

What are you doin' to change?

And please don't say, "I'm not lookin' at porn and I'm postin'," for that's not inner change.


for inner change I'm trying to be honest with myself about my ego anger and self esteem figuring out when and why I get angry/egoistic and working on these middos thru mussar and talking to friends and family.
Also listened to the chossen shmuzzen by R' Fuerman(or however you spell it) also downloading and listening to Dov's calls and reading the different advice found here and trying to decide what works for me from all of these places.
Is there something else  should try?

(From a later post) True having a mentor or rebbe to talk to is a good thing but so far I have made very good progress by talking to my wife parents and friends and I see no reason why this cannot continue to work.


Thank you for takking time to help me

Can we have a convo. Do you mind if I inquire my dear brother what's goin on
  1. Can you explain working on these middos thru mussar. What does that mean exactly
  2. "figuring out when and why I get angry/egoistic". Im clueless how to do that myself. How are you managing
  3. "Talking to my wife parents and friends" about the weather? About porn?

All the best - my brother!!

GET YOUR SNOW TRUCK OUT AND KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!
08 Feb 2017 18:15

Watson

Welcome. You're in the right place.

First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook.  No two people are the same, everyone has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the solution too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to everyone. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.

This is a very common problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situation got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.

So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
Category: Introduce Yourself
08 Feb 2017 08:00

Watson

Welcome. You're in the right place.

First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook.  No two people are the same, everyone has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the solution too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to everyone. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.

This is a very common problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situation got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.

So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
Category: Introduce Yourself
08 Feb 2017 07:59

Watson

Welcome back. You're in the right place.

First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook.  No two people are the same, everyone has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the solution too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to everyone. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.

This is a very common problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situation got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.

I just want to point out that lots of people get bored but don't act out. Lots of people get stressed but don't act out. I think you wrote that these are "reasons" why you act out, instead of "triggers" that lead to acting out. Avoiding triggers alone might not be the long-term solution you are looking for.

So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
Category: Break Free
06 Feb 2017 20:34

Watson

Welcome. You're in the right place.

First of all please take time to read through the GYE handbook.  No two people are the same, everyone has a slightly different set of circumstances, but we all share this problem and since we share the problem we can share the solution too. The book is written in a general way so it can apply to everyone. I found it helpful to really think about what the book was saying and how it applied to me and my own life.

This is a very common problem nowadays, you're far from the only one to deal with it. The word addict gets thrown around quite a lot, but most people who struggle with this issue are not addicts, just normal people with a normal yetzer hora. Which is good. Some people have come to realise that they really are addicts because their situation got gradually worse and worse despite working on it. When I say worse I mean, in frequency, severity or just feeling worse after every slip. If that is the case we may need more than GYE, which most people find to be therapy or SA or both. But I wouldn't jump to that conclusion about you. Many people have overcome this challenge right here on GYE using the tools in the handbook.

So stick around. Keep posting, keep reading and keep on trucking.
Category: Introduce Yourself
06 Feb 2017 11:11

Singularity

mirror wrote on 02 Feb 2017 12:18:

stillgoing wrote on 02 Feb 2017 12:06:

Yosef Tikun HaYesod wrote on 01 Feb 2017 17:44:
"FSKOT! (Fell Shmell--Keep on Trucking) (The Rebba R' Bards)"
BTW, where is Bards?
I haven't seen any recent post from him.


You'd have to go back a few years to find any live quotes from him.
Rumor has it that he went completely off of computers. Who knows, he might be your neighbor, or your friend. If anyone gives you Woodford for shaloch monos.....

Or he could be you.

works well with the username.
Category: Just Having Fun
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