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22 Feb 2023 10:25

Yosef Hamevakesh

First of all Welcome to the posting crew!! It's really a big step, and be"h it should be a tool that will now help you to come clean.

Secondly, it sounds like you're pretty observant of what circumstances and situations lead up to your falls which is also a big deal, because it'll help you to avoid what triggers you and you can end up with a clear plan on how to keep winning.

Third, it sounds like you've come to the understanding that this fight isn't an all or nothing. You gotta keep fighting the battles, even though you may have falls along the way. The fact that you fell, doesn't mean that you failed, it's a normal part of growing higher (The fact that I didn't understand this made think I was hopeless and kept me depressed for years). This understanding can make a difference in the fight like the diff. btwn night and day.

In regards to what you said about streaks and filters, I would like to humbly state my opinion here:
Streaks are a great tool if you use them properly. Watching the number go up every day can be a huge boost and a reminder to what you really want and that your growing. Another thing which they can be a helpful for is that you can celebrate when you reach x amount of days. If the streak is something that you're obsessing over, than you might be right that it's not for you right now. But if the streak isn't the focal point, rather just a boost that's running in the background, it can help a lot.

In regards to filters, I think that for most of us, it's practically impossible to stay clean without one. We higher our chances of staying clean when we have one. I personally am very careful that I don't have apps which I can access content that my filter won't read. Also with probably any real filter you can easily block installing new apps which will have bad content.
FIlters aren't foolproof, and if you find yourself constantly looking for ways around it (yes, it's normal and we've all been there), maybe do what HHM suggested me and many others: Get Webchaver. This step pretty much put a stop to my looking at bad content instantaneously.

Either way, Keep On Trucking.! We're happy for you to join the forums live, and hope that you stick around. Every one of us here gives everyone else chizuk, so we're happy that you decided to open up חביבי!
Category: What Works for Me
29 Jan 2023 03:04

OivedElokim

Wow.

So much inner strength.

So much commitment to things that transcend temporal passions.

"Moods come and go, but greatness endures"

I have a lot to learn from you.

Keep on trucking!

Love,
OivedElokim
Category: Introduce Yourself
27 Jan 2023 05:17

Markz

Geshmak! wrote on 27 Jan 2023 04:48:
A person needs a lot of Siyatta Dishmaya to find a good therapist and also that he should he be able to help you. I started going to therapy recently ( long story how I ended up there, maybe I’ll post abt it a different time when I get some extra time in my life) and I davened very strongly to H’ that he should be the right shilyach to help me. And bh I’m having major progress and finding out amazing things about myself that is really helping me in all aspects in my life. I’m opening up to old painful Periods in my life. Like being bullied in my class and getting blamed from my parents for it… ouch ! It heart and I actually forget long ago about it but together with my therapist I remember it and I remembered that the way I would escape the pain was by going in to a different world a world of fake a world of fantasies were everything is just so beautiful… it’s a long story and I don’t got the time but I basically got so addicted to living in the fantasy world that when I grow up the second I have tough moments I just go there. Whatever I really got to right my whole story maybe one day. But my point is that therapy works but you just need a lot of SiyattaDishmaya to be matzlich! So take out a tehilem before next time  you go and say some chapters with all your heart to your father in haven and bhy you’ll see amazing results!!
Btw it can take time to see results like I was getting nervous after two weeks of not seeing progress ( I’m that impatient type) but I bh saw pretty fast after . But 6 months is a long time. So it can be frustrating especially when you’re paying top dollar. So I really hope you see success really fast! Love ya! Good luck ! And have a beautiful shabbos!!

Amazing that you’re getting the help you need. 

People are not Trucks. You open the hood, turn a switch, slam dunk, and keep on trucking. It doesn’t work like that - there’s no one size fits all therapist / therapy modality. 

We each need something else. 
Someone once said “You know why 6 million Jews died in the holocaust? There’s 6 million reasons”

Sometimes it means the therapist isn’t the right fit, but many times it’s a matter of taking time. And then for others therapy isn’t enough - they can do with SA meetings etc. 

iwannalivereal I hope you find what you need - in good time. 

KOTYT

Keep On Trucking YOUR Truck
Category: Break Free
24 Jan 2023 18:42

Eerie

yud909 wrote on 24 Jan 2023 16:54:
wow! just read through this thread, great stuff, thank you for sharing. 

Bh I'm on 82 days clean now  but always wondering how long will this last for? Am I cured? (I know I'm not) Will I also get crazy taivos again like you  did on day 120?  Will I be able to fight? Will I fall? If chas veshalom I do, will I be able to get back up again? 

All questions I think about occasionally... your thread was definitely a chizuk, so thank you!

I think we all think these thoughts, and the answer is usually yes to most of those questions. Yes, we will still have moments where the YH gets really strong, and yes the fight will be tough but you will be able to fight, and if c"v you fall, yes you will be able to get up again. Think of it like D-day. without troops on the European continent, there was no way to open the front against the Germans. D-day was able to accomplish that from that point onward the allies were able to fight an even battle against the Axis powers. That does not mean that they lost no soldiers, didn't suffer setbacks, weren't attacked by a German offensive. Of course all those things did happen. (Take the battle of the bulge, for example) But D-day put the battle on even footing, it put it in place that victory became possible from there. The initial stage of staying clean, learning methods of control, of minimizing cues, that's our D-day. from there we enter the every day battle of the YH. Yes, the YH will still mount attacks, yes, it will be tough but you still have the power to fight! Hashem has not forsaken us! And yes, if you look at it this way, if you realize that falling from here on does not mean you have no hope, it does not mean you're a loser, it does not mean Hashem gave up on you, all it means is that you fell. So you'll get up, brush your pants off, and KEEP ON TRUCKING!!! 
Category: Break Free
15 Jan 2023 22:35

Eerie

My dear, holy friend, that's what friends are for. You were the first person to reach out to me, and I remain eternally grateful. It is so inspiring to read about you fighting the YH in real time, your resolve is unreal. Yes, you are right that we must always remain vigilant, the YH never sleeps. BH you are fighting him today from a healthy, normal position. That doesn't mean he's out of ammunition, but you are in a place where you can go through the regular tests of mankind, and fight back exactly the way you did. Sometimes the enemy brings out stronger weapons, those are the harder nisyoinois, and every nisayon is there so that we can grow through overcoming it. It was time for you to take things to the next level, so you got this test. AND YOU PASSED WITH FLYING COLORS!!! Keep on trucking, my friend! And keep us in the loop so we can all continue to be uplifted by you
15 Jan 2023 08:18

Eerie

yud909 wrote on 15 Jan 2023 04:39:

excellence wrote on 14 Jan 2023 19:57:

Hashem Help Me wrote on 13 Jan 2023 12:29:
In reality there is no difference between 70 and 700. 

Pls elaborate. I don't understand.

I think what HHM means (please correct me if I’m wrong) is that if you can go 70 days clean then you can go 700 days. Someone might be addicted but can go a week or two clean and then revert back to his old ways so he might convince himself that he needs this. Once you get to a certain point, for example 70 days, it’s quite obvious that you don’t need it. In the last 70 days I’ve gone through all my typical cycles of life. Boredom and busy, inspired and blah, happy and sad, good shalom bayis day and bad shalom bayis day, good day at work and bad, etc. And through it all I’ve been able to survive (thrive actually) without reverting to shmutz. So at this point there’s no reason why I can’t get to 700 days. 

thats how I understood it at least 

Beautifully said, my friend. I think that is what he meant. If I may add, I don't think I know all of what HHM meant, אין אדם עומד על דעת רבו עד ארבעים שנה, but I think he also meant that when you ease into realizing that this is the life that you choose to live you can come to the point of comfort of knowing that 90 days is a goal that will help a person change some of his inner landscape, relieve some of the pressure of addiction, but in reality each and every day is it's own goal. When we work with the 90 day goal, if we fall we view ourselves as losers, we have nothing to show for our efforts. In reality, each and every minute is its own goal! We have to internalize that these struggles are a part of life, and even if we fall that does not take one iota away of whatever we have accomplished, those days that were clean are still ours. Especially like in you case, when a 70+ days have gone by, you've had ups and downs, and your here! BH! Now, this is life. Remain vigilant, don't become complacent, but know that you are now living life, in a healthy way, the correct way, and keep on trucking, one day at a time! Waiting for the update at 7000 days!
Category: Introduce Yourself
11 Jan 2023 21:02

Eerie

Teshuvahguy wrote on 11 Jan 2023 00:08:
Today was logged 83 days. ONE MORE WEEK TO 90!!!

Way to go, my friend! Keep on trucking, and keep inspiring us! You are amazing in all that you have accomplished in your life, I can't imagine many people would be able to put up a fight like you did, to make so many monumental changes. You are an inspiration!
Category: Introduce Yourself
10 Jan 2023 21:12

Eerie

5Uu80*cdwB#^ wrote on 10 Jan 2023 20:44:

guardmyeyes1606 wrote on 10 Jan 2023 19:22:
I am really struggling to understand how masturbation, which in my experience (and many many many others seemingly from this forum), is absolutely irresistible at all stages of life, can be so seriously frowned on my halacha?
More than that, it seems to be a completely normal and healthy part of life, particularly as a boy is growing up and hitting puberty.
So how can it be so ossur? Does anyone in the world actually not do this?

Hi. I had this thought cross through my head so many times over approximately the 5 year period from when I first learned that masturbation is prohibited by halacha to when I finally had success on quitting nearly 500 days ago, Baruch Hashem.

The short answer is that in the midst of addiction to lust, which is what leads most people to be unable to live without masturbating, it is nearly impossible to imagine how you can live without masturbating. I know this because I clearly remember thinking to myself that I would never be able to live without masturbating back when I was in the midst of addiction. Your question makes a lot of sense from where you are.

If you:
1. Do not look at any sexually stimulating imagery, no matter what.
2. Move your mind on from sexually stimulating fantasies to other thoughts and activities.
3. Are willing to suffer the physical pains of withdrawal,

you will be able to stop masturbating. The reason people masturbate is because they lust and fantasize. If you get to the point where you recognize this, and then abandon all activities that lead to further fantasizing, you will stop masturbating. I never once masturbated without fantasizing. Ever. If you move on from fantasy and lust, you won't masturbate.

Reflect on this over and over: If you do not fantasize --> you will not masturbate. If you do not fantasize --> you will not masturbate. If you do not fantasize --> you will not masturbate. If you do not fantasize --> you will not masturbate. If you do not fantasize --> you will not masturbate. If you do not fantasize --> you will not masturbate. If you do not fantasize --> you will not masturbate.

That's the answer to your question. What holds people back is that they aren't honest with themselves about this and they aren't willing to endure the pain of withdrawal. It's really that simple. The hard work is doing it. And trust me, it's hard to abandon fantasy. But oh is it worth it to not be a slave to taivos! I am finally a free man. I have never felt better in my whole life. NOTHING beats the joy of being in control of your desires, once you experience that joy.

Reb numbers and letters, your response is beautiful, and your accomplishments are simply amazing! It is so inspiring to read somebody who was there write "But oh is it worth it to not be a slave to taivos! I am finally a free man. I have never felt better in my whole life. NOTHING beats the joy of being in control of your desires, once you experience that joy." Amazing. Keep on trucking and inspiring us all!
Category: Break Free
12 Dec 2022 17:08

Eerie

Hi yud909, Wow! Keep it up! Amazing to watch you go higher and higher. And so impressed by your taking it to the next level with stopping the videos. As to your question about which is worse, boredom or videos, I would guess each person is different, but the guys here offered some great ideas for boredom busters. Especially the idea of teaching Torah, you wrote in the past that you could have entered the chinuch arena, so hey, go for it. Learning Torah is powerful, and teaching and inspiring others is unreal. When you'll see the difference you made in someone's life it will impact you greatly.(And, btw, I'm your first talmid:)) keep on trucking, my friend, and keep us posted!
Category: Introduce Yourself
04 Dec 2022 23:07

Eerie

Hey, HB! Mazal tov on the 3 digits! Keep it up! I do agree with you that hearing it from people that are in the process of discovering it is a very powerful tool, but it's very tricky not to be triggering. Even the little that I've written brought on some mentions of triggers. But I will keep posting, most of it in the BB forum, but I'll let you know here if I put something there. Keep on trucking!
Category: Introduce Yourself
28 Nov 2022 02:27

Eerie

Absolutely! You can read my recent post at guardyoureyes.com/forum/19-Introduce-Yourself/388203-Its-all-in-the-name, we are in this together! Keep on trucking!
Category: Introduce Yourself
27 Oct 2022 19:39

Grant400

BHYY wrote on 27 Oct 2022 13:31:
Wow...what a moment. 365 days...1 year clean.
Hodu L'Hashem Ki Tov!!!!!!!
What a year it has been.
I haven't updated you friends in quite a while so here we go.
Over this last year I got engaged and married!
It is hard to describe what one year clean is like. It's not like there is a button that just turns off all desire, it's just different. Is walking outside still a nisayon? Yes. Is there still a huge nisayon when using technology? Definitely yes. Do I get urges? Yes.
But it is different.
I am in control. I don't fall apart every time I get an urge. It's so hard to describe. But I wish it upon each and every one of you!!!
First and foremost I want to thank all of you who have been with me on this journey. This platform is truly amazing.
I want to give a special shoutout to a few tzadikim who have been at my side this entire time.
Bigmoish - it all started with you. The first person I reached out to. The first person who really pushed me to recovery. Thank you!
Hashem Help Me - My friend and my Rebbe. Thank you for always being there (and continuing to be there!!) whenever I needed someone to talk to (or give me a good kick in the pants and tighten up the nuts and bolts!)
iampowerless - Yankel! Having a friend fighting right alongside me was indispensable. Thank you for your advice, your friendship, and your constant positive attitude.
Finally, thank you to all the members of the SMART meeting. You forever have a special place in my heart!

Thank you GYE!!!

Thank you Hashem!!!!!!

What amazing news! So happy for you! Thanks for sharing! 
:pinch: Warning: Spoiler!
Keep on trucking
06 Sep 2022 18:29

OivedElokim

Bravo!!
Keep On Trucking!
02 Sep 2022 04:32

Markz

yehuda0524 wrote on 02 Sep 2022 04:01:


You made me in shivers. I feel your pain coming thru in every word. 
I would like to hear more about your story. if you are willing to share.

Absolutely. My family never really had filters on any devices growing up and being a curious young teen, i started surfing the web hoping to find things. Bh over the years Hashem has really watched over me that it never lead to porn sites. But i was watching borderline porn on youtube. I was pretty protected in yeshiva bh but it was very difficult for me when i would come home for bain hazmanim. 
When i was in 10th grade, i decided to open up to my father about it which was probably one of the smartest things ive ever done. He was very understanding and he tried to do the best he can and always keeping it private(my mother still doesnt know)
Its been better and worse at times. Over corona it was very difficult for me. It got really hard once again through the stresses of dating and that was when the masturbation became much more of an issue for me. i had a therapist and i reached out to him about these challenges i was having. Ive made some progress and learned some tools but i really feel and hope that i could do better. I hope and pray that  through consistently checking in, posting, starting the program, and potentially getting a partner it will really help me be the best i possibly can be
What really sparked me turning to gye is i got married pretty recently and i feel  my old habits on a smaller scale are resurfacing. This is partly due to the excess technology that i have on a regular basis(opposed to yeshiva).  It gets me very scared because im trying to build a beautiful marriage and the house ive always dreamed of and i can see how these behaviors are soooo destructive. Ive really taken extreme measures in regards to filters and passwords. But i feel like it helps but cant be relied upon too much. My therapist recommended me joining gye and i truly see how amazing this program is and how special everyone in this community is. Its really amazing
Be"h with the help of hashem we can all overcome these challenges and reach the light at he end of this tunnel

Keep on Trucking!! 

You’re doing great. 

May I ask a silly question. What did your therapist want you to find on gye - taphsic? Libido lowering pills? Did he / she elaborate. 
Category: Introduce Yourself
22 Aug 2022 13:24

Captain

Hey ColinColin,
Sorry to hear about your fall. You are a real inspiration here, and we know that you will pick right back up and keep on trucking!
Category: Introduce Yourself
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