@HelpFyi
All of your teinos have some truth to them, but they will not help u.
repeat the bottom line after rebbe b.:
"I AM NOT THE TZNIUS POLICE, EVEN IF SHE IS MY WIFE
I CAN TELL HER WHAT I THINK, AND THAT IS MY RESPONSABILTY
BUT AFTER THAT,
SHE IS HER OWN PROBLEM, EVEN IF SHE IS MY WIFE AND I HAVE TO LOVE HER ANYWAYS
IF I DO WHAT I CAN, THEN I DON'T HAVE TO EAT MYSELF UP ABOUT IT!
NOW KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!"
If I may add some words of my own:
Helpfyi wrote on 07 Jul 2011 18:28:
i am in charge of my wife's tzniyos,
Who told you this? You may held
responsible for the acti
ons of your b'nei bayis
if you didn't give them proper guidance where they needed it. But you are absolutely
not in charge. Is she "in charge" of your shmiras eyneyim p*** and mas******i
on? Absolutely not. Nor are you "in charge" of her tznius.
Besides, the truth is that most of the time they are 80-90% tznius and we are 100-150% sick.
As BB
once wrote: She can be dressed from head to toe in black and wear a dress shaped like a barrel -it doesn't matter.
We will find a way to undress her with our eyes if we d
on't address
our problem, which is
not the way this
one or that
one dresses. Even if our wife is the
one in questi
on.
Besides, if we approach our wife and say, "Hey, that's not so tzniusdik" even in the nicest way, and
on in the inside our mind is saying "WOWEEE does this turn me/people like me
on!", d
on't you think that her heart knows the truth that it is not the Shulchan Aruch inspiring these words, rather it is our guilty c
onscience (and sometimes our desire to cover up for our illicit behavior) trying to
use her as the
one woman whom we think that we ought to be able to c
ontrol to make up for our misdeeds?
I believe (and this has been my own experience) that when a husband's request/suggesti
on to strengthen any area of religious observance is truly sincere -the wife knows it, and willingly assists him in any way that she can.
On the other hand, when the husband is being self righteous and/or he really isn't holding at the level that he professes -she will just blow him right off with all sorts of taanos such as the
ones that you posted ("yeh but look at her her her and her who are all frum and they DO wear this type of thing??").
It's just part of Hashem's way of protecting us and the world from ourselves.
"She might be a problem, but she's not your problem"
You are.