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14 Dec 2011 19:03

gibbor120

Forget Madreigos, Just Humbly Serve Hashem (From Daily Dose)


If every time I lust in any way, I would react by considering it tantamount to a "fall", there will be many problems. First, it would show that all this is about is what it was always about: Me and my goodness, or badness. As an addict in recovery, practically speaking, I cannot afford to be focused on the scale of the ShLo"H (which I love learning now!), the Yesod Yosef, or anyone else whose goal is kedushas hamachshovah almost as a goal in and of itself. I completely lose my humility that way. Before long, I find myself truly believing that I am "busy with great things (madreigos)", yet masturbating all the same. I went that way for years, gave shiurim for ba'alei teshuva, and masturbated (and worse) until one day by G-d's Grace I grew up a bit and decided that I'd rather be a humble sober kosher Jew, than a star-crossed, kedusha-struggling Jew who isn't sober. I spared myself the hashkofah. I know it sounds horrid to a pumped-up truly well-meaning d'veikus-seekers of today, but it works. And paradoxically, in all my life I have never been as successful in trying to really serve Hashem as I am today. I am not sure I am serving Him, but I sure am trying harder and enjoying it more naturally than ever! B"H I have been able to take on many things and limudim that previously would lead me down a path of "greatness"! Hah. I hope I'm not fooled any more. I am just a sexaholic who is trying to learn the depths of Hashem's Torah and serve Him with all the heart I have left, if he lets me. Even if I will never "get" any reward for it from Him. Being in that army is worth it. By all rights, I shouldn't be allowed in at all.

In SA, our sobriety definition includes no sex with myself, and none with anyone other than my wife. Of course, progressive freedom from the preoccupation with lust is necessary for success with remaining sober, so: If I were to be forcing my wife to have sex, or if I were to be masturbating up until the point that I don't "do the aveiro", or just look at porn all day today, I would certainly lose my sobriety the good ol' fashioned way, in a matter of time. I will need to quit that, or else. So I always do (so far), with His help.

I accept that sexaholics lust sometimes - we do that. Nu. I need to admit any intentional use of lust to my home group and - if I am smart - will call my friends and talk with them about it and admit this new proof of my powerlessness over lust in any meeting I go to... but then "Keep on Trucking!" is what I need to hear and do!

If being sober is not good enough for me, then I say it isn't sobriety I am after, but my own Pride and perfection, masked in religion. That's the way it is for me.
14 Dec 2011 17:38

obormottel

takes a lot of koach to admit your fall. Get up and keep on trucking. Maybe adjust your fences if your old ones let you down.
Hatzlacha.
Category: Break Free
14 Dec 2011 17:16

Gevura Shebyesod

That's one of the YH's ways of playing dirty, when you control your thoughts while you're awake you get dreams instead. I had that a couple of times too. Dreams so vivid i was sure it was real. Then I woke up and it was a huge effort not to finish it right there.

Just try to keep your mind occupied with productive things, the memories will fade away.

You're doing great, stay strong and Keep On Trucking!!!!

Gevura!
Category: Introduce Yourself
13 Dec 2011 17:38

Gevura Shebyesod

Have a great trip, we are looking forward to welcoming you back. And Keep on Trucking!!!

Gevura!
Category: Break Free
13 Dec 2011 14:34

Hashem Yaasfeni

I just want to apologize to you Blind beggar if I came across a bit strong with the last post. Sometimes I feel I need a good kick in the Tu---s and so I respond to others that way but that is wrong.  Mussar is for oneself, not others

You are doing great in your struggle and way past me. 

BTW the goyim have a saying "Beggar thy neighbour, beggar thyself" which means when you try to take down another person near you, you take yourself down with him, so nobody wins in the end.... Not sure how that fits with your name though....

Hatzlacha, Keep on trucking !!

HY
Category: Introduce Yourself
08 Dec 2011 22:07

Gevura Shebyesod

Good for you, nice win!

Stay strong and Keep on Trucking!!!!

Gevura!
Category: Break Free
07 Dec 2011 15:36

heuni memass

YairA Welcome brother. Ok you know you need to do something about it but getting carries away is atzas hyetzer. YOu joined our community and that is a great step in moving forward. First things first, Get up and move forward and here we call it Keep on trucking.(KOT) or kadima.

Welcome to our community, you have finally come home!

GuardYourEyes (GYE) is a vibrant network and fellowship of Jews of all affiliations, struggling to purify themselves and break free of lust related behaviors. For the first time, there is somewhere to turn to for help in these areas. We're all in the same boat here. Tzuras Rabim Chatzi Nechama  Once you've arrived, there's no turning back. Everyone here will just grab a hold of you and pull you up with them!
 
In the last couple of years, the GYE network has helped roughly 1,000 Jews get back on a path of sanity, self-control and healing and has touched the lives of thousands more. GYE has become known throughout the Jewish world as the number one address for dealing with these challenges which have reached epidemic proportions. 

The tools of our recovery program were developed with guidance from the best experts in the field, such as Rabbi Dr. Avraham J. Twerski, and through the personal experience of hundreds of Jews who successfully broke free. We use a unique approach that recognizes that there are many different levels in these struggles.

Our network is comprised of a website, a pulsating forum, phone conferences, daily Chizuk e-mails, support hotlines, therapists, live 12-Step groups and a program of recovery for all levels of this struggle/addiction.

All our work is free of charge and we zealously protect the complete anonymity of all our members.

Here are some quick things you can do to help you jump straight into your journey:

1) See the "GYE Program in a Nutshell" (Right Click the link and press "Save Link/Target As" to save the PDF file to your computer) that can help you quickly identify at what level of the struggle you are at, and which tools and features would help you most at your particular level.

2) Install a strong filter (see this page for more info). It is hard to break free of this while having all the garbage within a mouse click away.  The filter gabai at filter.gye@gmail.com will hold the passwords for you. We also highly advise installing "Reporting Software" such as webchaver.org to give you some accountability.

3) Join the daily Chizuk e-mail lists to get fresh chizuk every day.

4) Join the 90 Day Challenge. Scientific studies have shown that it takes 90 days to change the neuron pathways created by addictive behaviors in the brain.

5) Post away on this forum, where hundreds of yidden like you exchange chizuk and post logs of their journey to recovery. You will internalize that you are not alone, and you will learn the techniques and attitude that work for so many others.

6) Join our free anonymous phone conferences, led by an experienced sponsor.

7) If you need more general guidance, write to GYE’s helpline at gye.help@gmail.com or call the hotline at 646-600-8100.

8.) Download and read the "Guard Your Eyes Handbook" (a hard copy can be purchased for cost price over here). This handbook outlines the GYE approach in detail, and makes our network much more effective and helpful for people. The handbook has two parts:

A) The first part, "The 20 Tools", detail suggested tools and techniques, in progressive order, beginning with the most basic and fundamental approaches to dealing with this addiction, and continuing down through increasingly earnest and powerful methods. No matter what level our addiction may have advanced to, we will be able to find the right tools to break free in this handbook!

The second part, "Attitude & Perspective", detail 30 basic principles to help us maintain the proper attitude and perspective on this struggle. Here are some examples: Understanding what we are up against, what it is that Hashem wants from us, how we can use this struggle for tremendous growth, how we can deal with bad thoughts, discovering how to redirect the power of our souls, understanding that every little bit counts, learning how to bounce back up after a fall, and so on and so forth…


Our souls cry inside of us, but we have accustomed ourselves to block out that cry. Today we can begin to be who we really want to be.

We are here for you.
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07 Dec 2011 06:25

obormottel

excellent! keep on trucking!
Category: Introduce Yourself
06 Dec 2011 21:32

obormottel

fell-shmell, keep on trucking.
You seem to have good attitude about your 11 clean days always being there for you. They didn't disappear. You will always have them.
Hatzlocho.
05 Dec 2011 21:56

Gevura Shebyesod

Yeah, he's telling you, "you blew the day anyways, may as well enjoy it". Don't listen to that slimy b******d!

Every hour, every minute that you resist is precious.

KEEP ON TRUCKING!!!!!

Gevura!
05 Dec 2011 21:14

Gevura Shebyesod

A true talmid of the Rebbe Shlit'a (may he return soon....)

Keep up the positive attitude and Keep On Trucking!

Gevura!
01 Dec 2011 16:19

ZemirosShabbos

wow, that's something SF, thanks for sharing
more power to you
chazak ve'ematz!
Keep on trucking no matter what
01 Dec 2011 14:48

Gevura Shebyesod

Dear Stopping,

I am with you all the way......I could have written most of your post myself, many times...

The pain you feel is the death throes of the YH, trying to make you feeling bad about feeling good for fighting back. It can be so confusing at times. But in the end it makes us stronger.

Hang in there...and Keep On Trucking!!!!

Gevura!
30 Nov 2011 21:58

JackAbbey

my parents are hard, would be an understatement
feeling alone is my usual
i never have any one that i can trust and discuss my challanges
therefore i fell and fell and fell.....................
but b"h since the day i found out about gye i stopped falling 117 days ago

so i would say:
parents shmarents
alone shmone
just keep on trucking
(besides, we are freinds here, you are not alone)
shmeichel
27 Nov 2011 17:44

heuni memass

hey starting over,

I hope you had a good shabbos.

Myself and many others here have and are going through/went through very similar situations. there are three things i would like to share with you.

uno - Hashem loves you so much and I feel like sole brothers with you as well.

dos- Look around and find a plan/program that will work for you, do not just try on your own. make a real plan.

tres - there is something that i think is fundamental and used here on the site alot and that's called Keep on trucking (KOT) and the idea is once we find a program and really start working it, if and if you hit a bump and slip/fall whatever, we need to remember its not over. We get up and move on in the forward direction and that's called KOT.  If we go in to this for the win and suddenly we slip back a bit we can get all frustrated and loose the drive so to speak. and that's why KOT is so important.

Please keep on posting don't go at it alone. Please find a person that you can talk too (i would think other they a rabbi, because you maynot feel like nagging him all the time)

--hm
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