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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 09:25 #35383

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I noticed the web address for kosher eyes from there I started looking around and ended up here.


MosheW, thanks, that's interesting. Does kosherEyes have a link to us?
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 18:39 #35481

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I wouldn't worry. A ban like this will without a doubt have plenty of Chareidishe Rabbonim who don't consider it manditory, leaving you with plenty of poskim who matir to choose from. :D
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 19:02 #35494

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Rage ATM wrote on 17 Dec 2009 18:47:

Chazak wrote on 17 Dec 2009 17:51:

Also, do you think that we in chutz are chayov to listen, mei'ikor hadin  to the E.Y. rabbonim? [/i]


rage to self: ignore it...ignore it...in through the nose, out through the mouth...

LOL :D
But I'm not sure if your thinking "What are you! Nuts? Of course not!!"
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"What are you! Nuts? Of course!!"
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 19:07 #35495

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Chazak wrote on 17 Dec 2009 17:51:

The following question is addressed primarily to the Guard.

[i]Lema'an Hashem, this new "ban" on Chareidi sites if taken literally applies to GYE also. I  don't know what  to do about it. Not
that I am worried about going to GYE, if the Guard keeps it going, but does that demonstrate that the rabbonim who signed it don't really understand what is going on regarding the internet. (Maybe that doesn't matter, because they find out facts as best they can and have Siyatoh Dishmayoh in their answers.)



Just a reminder that we're talking about an addiction, and GYE helps direct sick people to the appropriate medicine (for some, GYE itself may be the appropriate medicine).  It's safe to assume that no one is banning medical care for people who need it.
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 19:29 #35505

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Forgive me for saying this, but I think it's an Atzas Hayetzer to even bring this up.  Here's why: Someone much greater than our Gedolim, in fact INFINITELY greater than Moshe Rabbeinu has banned pornography, masturbation, and even worse activities.  A lot of good that did us!  If we can't heed the Ribbono Shel Olam's "Daas Torah," why are we becoming Frum all of a sudden?
Just as an alcoholic needs to avoid that first sip, a lust addict needs to avoid that first slip.Slip today? No way! ;)Fall today? No way, Jose'!
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 19:33 #35507

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Kedusha wrote on 17 Dec 2009 19:29:

Forgive me for saying this, but I think it's an Atzas Hayetzer to even bring this up.  Here's why: Someone much greater than our Gedolim, in fact INFINITELY greater than Moshe Rabbeinu has banned pornography, masturbation, and even worse activities.  A lot of good that did us!  If we can't heed the Ribbono Shel Olam's "Daas Torah," why are we becoming Frum all of a sudden?

We are not really getting frum here, what we want to know is will the GUE board be forced to shut itself down c"v.
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 19:34 #35508

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Kollel Guy wrote on 17 Dec 2009 19:33:

Kedusha wrote on 17 Dec 2009 19:29:

Forgive me for saying this, but I think it's an Atzas Hayetzer to even bring this up.  Here's why: Someone much greater than our Gedolim, in fact INFINITELY greater than Moshe Rabbeinu has banned pornography, masturbation, and even worse activities.  A lot of good that did us!  If we can't heed the Ribbono Shel Olam's "Daas Torah," why are we becoming Frum all of a sudden?

We are not really getting frum here, what we want to know is will the GUE board be forced to shut itself down c"v.


It won't.
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 19:48 #35517

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Kedusha wrote on 17 Dec 2009 19:34:

Kollel Guy wrote on 17 Dec 2009 19:33:

Kedusha wrote on 17 Dec 2009 19:29:

Forgive me for saying this, but I think it's an Atzas Hayetzer to even bring this up.  Here's why: Someone much greater than our Gedolim, in fact INFINITELY greater than Moshe Rabbeinu has banned pornography, masturbation, and even worse activities.  A lot of good that did us!  If we can't heed the Ribbono Shel Olam's "Daas Torah," why are we becoming Frum all of a sudden?

We are not really getting frum here, what we want to know is will the GUE board be forced to shut itself down c"v.


It won't.


I'll tell you how I know.  First, to my knowledge, every Rav who has found out about GYE is very impressed by it.  Second, there's a "Zeh l'Umas Zeh" in this world.  As Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky explains, when there was Nevuah in the world, there was Kishuf as well.  When we stopped having Neviim, Kishuf was no longer needed to create a balance in the world and give us Bechira.  When, IY"H, GYE becomes so successful that no one can imagine how anyone was ever Nichshal with p***, we may have something to worry about (ironically).  However, with shmutz in the U.S. raising more revenue than the budget of many countries, it's safe to say that GYE is not nearly on a level playing field with what it's up against, and that it's got a long way to go until it is.
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 19:52 #35520

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The following question is addressed primarily to the Guard.

Lema'an Hashem, this new "ban" on Chareidi sites if taken literally applies to GYE also. I  don't know what  to do about it. Not
that I am worried about going to GYE, if the Guard keeps it going, but does that demonstrate that the rabbonim who signed it don't really understand what is going on regarding the internet. (Maybe that doesn't matter, because they find out facts as best they can and have Siyatoh Dishmayoh in their answers.)


This is a funny question. Kedusha is right.

Let me see if I can think of a parable that shows how ridiculous this is.

Health experts ban drugs that aren't authorized by the FDA. They ban even the homeopathic stuff that is known to work, because they are afraid that it can lead to dangerous illegal drugs as well.

Now there's a "GYE pill" that heals the effects of all the dangerous drugs. Should the health experts ban apply to the GYE pill as well?

If so, what are those who ignored the health experts original ban and fell into bad drugs supposed to do? The GYE pill is their only hope! Should we let them die because they ignored the original ban?

I could probably do better with my Moshol, but I'm tired. :
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 19:57 #35524

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uh... forgive my ignorance. Exactly WHAT ban are you talking about? And by WHOM?
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 20:01 #35526

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Steve wrote on 17 Dec 2009 19:57:

uh... forgive my ignorance. Exactly WHAT ban are you talking about? And by WHOM?


Steve,

You can read about it on Yeshiva World.

I propose we "ban" further discussion on the topic! 
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 20:10 #35533

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Rage ATM wrote on 17 Dec 2009 20:06:

Kedusha wrote on 17 Dec 2009 20:01:



Steve,

You can read about it on Yeshiva World.




so now youre a choteh and machti...ill save you a place in hell next to me...we can be neighbors...play backgammon...


LOL

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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 20:16 #35535

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GYE is not "Chareidi" - it reaches out to all types of Jews.
Just as an alcoholic needs to avoid that first sip, a lust addict needs to avoid that first slip.Slip today? No way! ;)Fall today? No way, Jose'!
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 20:17 #35536

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Rage ATM wrote on 17 Dec 2009 20:06:

so now youre a choteh and machti...ill save you a place in hell next to me...we can be neighbors...play backgammon...

A big mekubal told me, the only game they have there chutes and ladders.
And I think they're makpid about bringing in games from outside (in case you were thinking about bringing along your own).
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Re: HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT GYE? - (oh, and Where are you from?) 17 Dec 2009 20:31 #35545

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Rage ATM wrote on 17 Dec 2009 20:18:

guardureyes wrote on 17 Dec 2009 20:10:

Rage ATM wrote on 17 Dec 2009 20:06:

Kedusha wrote on 17 Dec 2009 20:01:



Steve,

You can read about it on Yeshiva World.




so now youre a choteh and machti...ill save you a place in hell next to me...we can be neighbors...play backgammon...


LOL

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i think i may have scared kedusha straight for good...he thought hell was just gonna be shoveling hot dung forever and ever...little did he know it means spending an eternity with rage!!!! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I can think of trillions of things I'd rather do!  ;D
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