dov wrote on 03 May 2011 16:32:

even our Rebbe? the humblehappytruckdrivericecreamkickboxing one?

Yes, even with the heligeh einikle, shlit"a.

ZemirosShabbos wrote:


Thanks Zemmy.

After the first response, which was totally negative, I also understood it that way.

Yosef Hatzadik wrote on 28 Apr 2011 19:43:



Shadi Bai Narga is a term the Gemara uses for a victorious argument or attack on a position literally it means "To throw in it a hatchet. I imagine the Mashgiach meant menai ubay, meaning either through our methods or their methods i.e. 12 steps, either way Shadi Bai Narga we are defeating or attacking the problem. (the Gemara's are in Sanhedrin 30b, also in Succah and Rosh Hashana).

But now that I see ZS's understanding I think he might be more correct on the menay ubay part.

Me3 wrote on 03 May 2011 18:05:


Is your understanding different than mine?
Yosef Hatzadik wrote on 03 May 2011 15:41:

The gemara's I saw said narga not nagra I believe. And besides I ended off saying that I thought ZS ws probably more correct. Otherwise it would seem that we are in fact saying the same thing. My apologies,  had only seen your other ridiculous interpretation before that he was condemning the whole site.

Me3 wrote on 03 May 2011 18:45:


You owe me another apology too.    ;D

I was not the one who suggested that he was condemning the site......  I was arguing against that.

... and what I've learnt from this is that I have to put down the Nesivos Shalom once in a while and learn some more Gemara!

YVY wrote on 03 May 2011 18:50:


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

YVY wrote on 03 May 2011 18:50:


lol
well loock at this
מאור ושמש  פרשת וירא

המשיח יבטל כח השטן, לרמז מיניה וביה שדא ביה נרגא, ומהרסיך ומחרביך ממך יצאו
the mashgiach could have mean this like a few ppl said, that the same internet that did us trouble in the first place its also gonna be our yeshua meaning GYE.

but it could also mean; with what you trieng to help (internet, debate, speacking about the subject publicly) you ruining also (internet, debate, speacking about the subject publicly...)  why? ask him.

bekitzer ask him if he was positive or negative

any way the mashgiach"s hashkafa dos not fit the mayority of the guys of gye, so live him alone.
if he was negative, he was negative about his croud (עולם, קהילה) not about a diiffrent croud

Wow Yosef, You're really opening up here.

How about you keep on posting your progress right here.
Otherwise we can all hit you over the head with possum clobbers.

This way you are sure to move forward with the steps....  or get a big headache.

as for undertakers, you are undertaking a wonderful task.

koecadwalaot

world wrote on 03 May 2011 03:05:

world wrote on 03 May 2011 22:10:


I am trying to see the difference between these two posts.

Otherwise, why would you post the exact same thing less than 19 hours apart?        > ;D

Maybe it was for emphasis?

Maybe it was for emphasis?

...or are BOTH of you trying to raise your post counts?