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Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 09:39 #419398

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In YY Jacobson's talk with Eli Nash, he spoke about the importance of saying thank you to the addiction and letting it go. Meaning, the addiction is the solution, not the problem. It's the solution to a deeper pain, a deeper void, a deeper sense of isolation, loneliness, etc. It's been serving a purpose, and to treat it as something so evil only makes us feel worse about ourselves, which fuels the addiction further (as it's really covering up a lack of connection.) Therefore, in order to recover, we must acknowledge what our addiction was doing for us, thank it, and say goodbye, as we're adults now and can deal with our pain in a healthy manner.

Addiction served me for a long time. It protected me. It helped me stop feeling pain. It helped me and I need to acknowledge those parts of me instead of only acting as if it's shame, so I can let it go, and prepare to live a normal, healthy, balanced life.

Rabbi YY Jacobson, in the name of Rabbi Twersky, who helped tons with addiction, spoke about those with addictions having the deepest soul. We have the biggest lack and void in our soul that we need to fill with a stronger, deeper, darker addiction. More than others, we need a strong connection with life, our friends, family, Hashem, our spouse, etc.

Rabbi Jacobson said this addiction is not not about sex. It's about loneliness. The opposite of addiction is not sobriety. It's connection.

I'm ready to connect with my true inner self, with others, and with Hashem, in a truly authentic, rich and meaningful way, even if that sometimes brings pain along with it. Therefore, I need to say goodbye to this addiction.

But, instead of pretending like it's evil and I'm a horrible person, I'm going to start by acknowledging what it was doing for me all of these years... for if it wasn't serving some purpose, I wouldn't be doing it again and again. To ignore this is to ignore reality. I cannot let go of this addiction until I recognize what it's done for me.

This letter is by no means endorsing pornography or masturbation. My aim is not to highlight any "benefits" of these habits or to promote them in any way.

Rather, I want to acknowledge that, despite their destructive effects, they did serve a purpose in my life. They were filling a void, helping me cope with pain and isolation. I wired my brain at a very young age to turn here for comfort, and it protected me all of these years.

I want to recognize what this habit did for me all these years, so I can let it go, and fulfill myself in a healthy, meaningful way with real relationships, even if that means feeling pain.

Dear porn and masturbation, I want to thank you for all that you've done to help me.

Before we met, I was a happy little boy with a "normal" home. I fondly remember the love and connection I felt during shabbat dinners with my family. I also enjoyed all the time I spent with my mom when she home schooled me. She took me on field trips, read books with me, and otherwise spent lots of quality time with me.

But then we moved, and my parents' marriage went downhill. Shabbat dinners stopped abruptly, followed by the love and attention I once received as a little boy.

That's when the fighting started.

I was a nine year old boy, all alone in my room with nobody there. I was scared and afraid. I could hear my parents screaming at each other downstairs tucked away under the covers. I tried to cover my ears, but I could still hear. I tried slipping a note under their bedroom door during a fight asking them to make up, but they kept fighting. I crawled into my four year old sister's bed when my parents were fighting downstairs late at night so I wouldn't be all alone. My sleeping sister was the only one there to comfort me.

One night, I waited all night for my mom to tuck me in, but she didn't come. I started crying and screaming "mom! where are you?!" over and over but she didn't come.

Then my dad walked in. He sat down on the floor, leaning against the wall, defeated.

"Your mom isn't coming home tonight Jacob."

That's when he broke the news to me.

After my parents divorced, life went on. My mom had to get a job to support herself and couldn't homeschool me. She was becoming less and less available, both emotionally and physically. I went from sleeping in to waking up at the crack of dawn, driving to a babysitter's house before public school at 5 AM, going to school, and then going back to the babysitter until she picked me up at 7 PM, took us home, gave us dinner and went to sleep.

The transition was difficult, but I adjusted quickly. This all happened when I was in the 4th grade, around 9 or 10 years old.

In the 5th grade, I heard someone say girls kiss each other too, but I didn't believe them. I searched "girls kissing" on Google.

Then I found you.

I didn't know what I was seeing at first. I felt excited and ashamed at the same time. Even at such a young age, something about what I was looking at felt so wrong.

But I kept going back for more.

Curiousity turned into a regular habit. As time passed, I thought it was normal. Just about every boy I spoke to at school was watching you too. We talked about it as if it was normal.

When I came home from school, I used you. Before I went to sleep, I used you. When I was bored, I used you. When I was feeling lonely, I used you.

Within a few years, I used you every day, at least once a day, for almost a decade.

I never thought I was an unhappy child or teenager. I always thought "I was fine."

The truth is, I was not fine. I was in pain, and you helped me feel "fine." You numbed my pain. You numbed my pain so it didn't hurt so badly. You gave me something to connect to when I was lacking connection.

I never addressed the pain inside from my parents' divorce, or the distance put between me and my mother. Instead of facing my problems, I just covered them up with you.

Now that I'm older, you're still helping me up until this very moment. When I'm tired, stressed, lonely, overwhelmed, or feeling shame, you help me calm down and feel good.

When I'm preparing for a hard week ahead, settling back into the stressful realities of life, business, etc. you help me calm down.

It's hard for me to let you go, after all we've been through together. Through the ups and the downs, you've always been there to help me through it all.

However, despite our long history, I cannot go on like this any longer, for our relationship is not a healthy one. You may numb my pain, but you're also numbing my experience of life along with it. You take me out of this world in an unhealthy way. You make me feel shame, guilt, fear, sadness, and isolation.

You're replacing an opportunity to feel true love and connection with something artificial and fake.

You're preventing me from getting married, as I cannot take this filthy habit into a marriage. You will destroy my relationship with my wife, hurt my children, and ultimately cause me to repeat the cycle of pain and trauma passed down to me from by my parents.

Even without marriage, when I'm with you, I'm not really living. I'm numbing myself, and dulling the brightness of life.

You promise to make me feel connected and loved, but every time you betray me and make me feel isolated, alone, like nobody will ever love me, and that everyone would shun me if they knew about you. Rather than making me feel connected to Hashem, others and myself, you make me feel isolated.

You make me feel powerless over my desires, like an animal, a slave to impulse. You make me engage in the most base behaviors, so far beneath my values, but they go out the door when I'm with you.

I've been angry at you for making me hate myself and do things I regret. I've been angry at you for years, but I keep coming back to you. Until now, I was not ready to let you go.

Every time I felt bad - whether caused by a tough conversation with a family member, stress at work, loneliness, etc - you were there for me. I turned to you to comfort me. But the temporary relief you gave was always swiftly followed by even more pain, anguish, loneliness, and isolation, than before.

didn't realize we had a toxic relationship until a few years ago when my friend challenged me to go 30 days without you and I only went 17. Ever since then, I've tried and tried, but have never gone more than a few months, and recently, once every week or two.

Ever since I tried fighting you, I've been so angry at you. As much as one part of me wants to let you go, another part of me is holding on so tight. I've hated that part of me. I've felt like I'm not a man, not a good person, not a good Jew. It makes me feel hopeless, like I'll never be married, never have a true meaningful connection with someone else, and even if I do get married, you'll haunt me in my marriage for eternity. I have a hard time looking rabbis and women in the eye, because I feel gross inside. I've been so angry at you for that, and so angry at the world for putting me in this situation.

But I realized that anger is not the right emotion to feel towards you. Rather, I should be feeling gratitude and compassion.

Gratitude, because you helped the little ten year old boy weather the storm of life for so many years, protecting him from the pain of his parents' divorce, lack of affection from his mother, and being thrust into a public school environment where he needed to survive.

And compassion, because that little boy didn't have a choice when he found you. He was a young child in lots of pain, who only wanted love from his family, but wasn't getting it. He was an innocent boy, full of life. A little boy who felt powerless over his family dynamic, in pain, who stumbled upon you without knowing any better. He was given unfiltered and unrestricted access to one of the strongest drugs ever known to mankind at the age of ten. It was normalized in his society, to the point where he'd talk about it with friends in school, hear about it in music, see it on TV and in movies, etc. He didn't know any better. How was he supposed to know the damage he was doing to himself back then?

And now, as an adult, I've been blaming that little boy, and angry at that little boy, for using you as a coping mechanism, when really, I should be feeling compassion for that little boy. He's still inside, and he still wants the love and affection he once had as a young boy but became deprived of by the age of 10. He was too young to know any better back then, so how can I expect him to know any better now?

Therefore, I have compassion for that boy. I love him more than he could ever know. He's a valuable person with so many bright lights to shine in this world. He has the potential to become a great person. He can have a meaningful and fulfilling marriage, raise healthy and bright children, and do so much to help others around him. But he has to see his own potential first.

But now, it's time to say goodbye. I'm an adult now, with free will. I'm choosing life over death. I choose to live. That means running towards Hashem, not away from Him. But don't be fooled - just because I'm saying goodbye to porn does not mean I'm going to forget about the little boy inside. I love him and will take care of him more now than ever before. He's finally going to get the real love he so desperately needs from himself, rather than seeking it from external sources. Not from porn, not from masturbation, not even relying on others for external validation.

Rather, he's going to get it from me. I'm going to love him and take care of him every day.

I'm going to love myself. Only through loving myself - truly loving myself - can I come to love others. And I cannot love myself when watching pornography. I'm watching women being objectified on a screen. I'm wasting my tremendous potential. I'm connecting to fake people doing something so animalistic and fake - connecting to pixels on a screen instead of a real person. I'm making myself feel shame and isolation instead of love and connection.

I'm hurting my ability to have a healthy, loving and meaningful marriage and increasing my odds of divorce and lonliness, the very opposite of what I want.

I cannot enter a marriage with you like so many of my peers have.

So, porn and masturabtion, this is goodbye. Thank you for all you've done for me, but I must go.

What will I do without you?

I'll live life to the fullest, feeling every moment of it, good and bad, for even the bad is good. Even though it doesn't feel good, it's the bad from which we grow the most and learn the most about ourselves.

I'm going to experience life, the happy and the sad, the pleasure and the pain. I'm going to love myself and love the inner child. Instead of turning to you I'm going to take care of myself with prayer, meditation, exercise, adventure and truly meaningful connections with others instead of my artificial connection to you. I'm choosing to build rather than destroy, to live rather than to die.

Thank you, and goodbye.

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 11:35 #419406

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Wow!
You touched my heart. 
Wishing you all the best my Brother.
Today is yesterday's tomorrow.
The yetzarim a person has the most trouble dealing with are his most powerful God-given tools for developing his potential and achieving shleimus.
It doesn't matter how big the number is, only that today it is going up by one.

A little about what I'm doing here: guardyoureyes.com/forum/19-Introduce-Yourself/412971-I-Want-to-Help-Others

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 14:27 #419417

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I read the line in your profile bio that says "In order to love who you are, you cannot hate the experiences that shaped you."

This resonated because I've been really down on myself for the experiences that shaped me. That's why I wrote the letter that you commented on. I'm trying to be more positive about the experience and acknowledge what it was doing for me, so I can find healthier outlets for those challenges.

My frum therapist told me he thinks the deeper issue here really comes down to self love. I lost my mom more or less at the age of 10, and I filled that void with porn, masturbation, etc. and as I got older, weed, alcohol, girls, video games, etc. 

if you couldn't tell from the post, I'm a BT, frum for over three years now BH. I'm 24 and I've given up weed and girls for 4+ years, video games, I have a flip phone, etc. 

BH I run a successful online business which is a huge brucha because I can have a flexible schedule for learning, davening, travel etc. but it also comes with its challenges... or should I say challenge (this challenge.)

Hearing that you made so much progress during marriage is so inspiring. Despite my therapist and a few rebbeim saying this doesn't necessarily have to stop me from getting married (I otherwise feel ready), I really don't want to start dating with this challenge. I'm terrified of bringing it into marriage. Shkoyahch to you for fighting it in a marriage. I'm so scared of not being healed before I'm married. I want to avoid the pain caused by my divorce from repeating itself with my own kids, but this challenge feels like a golden ticket to screw up my family... 

Anyway, my therapist and I have decided to embark on a new journey of self love over this specific issue. This has been feeling the void of connection I started lacking at a young age. I've been trying to feel it with so many substances/artificial fillers, and this is the last one I have to break. 

I've been learning two sedarim a day and then working late into the early morning every day and burning myself out. After a few weeks of this I fall. I realized I'm trying to cover up something deeper with constantly being busy, always trying to achieve, optimize, etc. and it burns me out.

I'm taking off second seder next zman to work a normal schedule, go to bed on time, etc. and I really want to focus on "self love" but to be honest, I don't exactly now what that practically means or looks like... but that's my avodah for now.

Any advice is welcome. Specifically interested in practical ways to practice "self love" because it feels kind of vague to me.

Thank you!

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 14:36 #419418

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Wow, what a powerful, deep, and painful letter you wrote! Your experiences resonate so deeply and your heroism jumps right off the page….

Stick around, learn the ropes and feel compassion for that young boy, drawn after pornography because of such incredibly painful circumstances, before he even had the knowledge to choose…..

Looking forward to getting to know you,
Muttel
We're in this struggle together; feel free to reach out! 
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Check out my thread here: guardyoureyes.com/forum/19-Introduce-Yourself/413043-My-ENTIRE-story#413043

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 14:45 #419419

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I read your story... we're all in this together. keep fighting! 

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 15:58 #419422

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G-d created me perfectly. Every challenge that I have faced was and is an opportunity to correct parts of myself and become more complete. If I never struggled, I'd never have had the drive to improve myself. If I never felt the need to be more, I wouldn't have the fuel to keep pushing myself. 
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Any experience that I've had, good or apparently bad, played a part in where I am now. There is no telling where else I might be without any one of them. 
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Self-Love is about accepting all of who you are and being at peace with it. Allowing yourself to give yourself what you need. Not blaming yourself for things that are out of your control and forgiving yourself for things that have come and gone. 
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I think you are taking a step in the right direction by giving yourself time to be, to process, and to take care of yourself. 
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Hatzlacha 
Today is yesterday's tomorrow.
The yetzarim a person has the most trouble dealing with are his most powerful God-given tools for developing his potential and achieving shleimus.
It doesn't matter how big the number is, only that today it is going up by one.

A little about what I'm doing here: guardyoureyes.com/forum/19-Introduce-Yourself/412971-I-Want-to-Help-Others

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 16:18 #419424

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A few practical ways of self-love that I do is to be aware of what my body wants and needs and taking care of them as soon as I can (eat, sleep, connect)
doing things that I enjoy and connecting with God who loves me (meditation helped me here) and people who love me for who I am.
Accepting and internalizing in myself that I'm not perfect and never will be, but as long as I don't give up and put my best foot forward, I'll be good enough.
(A friend once mentioned that saying/writing positive things about himself helped him.)
I hope this helps at least a little,
with lots of love and wishing you much hatzlacha
All the best,
Ezra W

P.S. There is no quick fix to self-love(/care) that I know of. Everything I listed takes time and effort to feel it's effects. But it's definitely worth it
Feel free to contact me privately with any questions or comments here on the GYE private messages or at ezrawrecovery@gmail.com 
Looking forward to hearing from you!

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 17:16 #419426

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Thank you both for your help! My thinking is:

- Create a schedule that has self care throughout the day. (Davening, meditation, exercise, time to hang with people and call family, etc. nested between work and learning) 
- Journaling every day on the plan for tomorrow and reflection for today... as well as self-love and positivity via journaling 
- Working through this in therapy
- Making time to just "be" and be happy, not because of my business success, or learning, etc

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 18:41 #419435

Dear my holy brother,

Your letter was a masterpiece. Your depth, clarity, and your pain touched my soul!! Many parts of your letter resonated deeply with me. I hope my tears for you while reading your story somehow alleviate your pain just a small bit.

I am rooting for you so hard that you find much Hatzlacha in  "throwing away the pacifier" and find much inner peace and boundless happiness. 

Keep in touch!!

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 18:54 #419440

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Hello Friend
Welcome aboard. Here is a place to heal and get the real appreciation you crave not coming from dark places.

As no stranger to missing the feeling of love, I can feel your pain. Yes it is many years of working to even find the pain and replace it with the love that you need. I needs to come from selfe love. I have been working on this for many years, and over the past few months that I have been here on GYE it has been easier to find, as I no longer look for it in the wrong places.

Stick around and you will fly together with us.
Come fly with me as I fly higher!
My Story

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Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 19 Aug 2024 19:44 #419444

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Thank you to both of you for the encouraging words. I look forward to continuing this journey of healing with all of you. Much hatzlacha.

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 20 Aug 2024 00:02 #419451

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Just read the letter. Whoa!

Had to do some explaining to those around me why I was teary. 

Understanding the pros and cons of how porn affects us is key to freedom! It seems like you've got it real clear, WOW!

Sorry for the pain you've experienced growing up, welcome to the site where you'll hopefully find unparalleled warmth. 

Looking forward to getting to know you better!

- Yiftach'l 
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Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 20 Aug 2024 12:25 #419472

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Thanks for the kind words! Surprised to hear you teared up reading this... I did too as I was typing... 

Crying is healthy though, it releases lots of tension and stress. 

Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 20 Aug 2024 12:28 #419474

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Tears are powerful! 

Rabbi Elazar also said: Since the day the Temple was destroyed the gates of prayer were locked and prayer is not accepted as it once was, as it is said in lamentation of the Temple’s destruction: “Though I plead and call out, He shuts out my prayer” (Lamentations 3:8). Yet, despite the fact that the gates of prayer were locked with the destruction of the Temple, the gates of tears were not locked, and one who cries before God may rest assured that his prayers will be answered, as it is stated: “Hear my prayer, Lord, and give ear to my pleading, keep not silence at my tears” (Psalms 39:13). Since this prayer is a request that God should pay heed to the tears of one who is praying, he is certain that at least the gates of tears are not locked.


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Re: Thank you and goodbye letter to PMO 25 Aug 2024 02:40 #420020

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Hey, here’s a warm hand! 

Your letter is extremely powerful, and painful to read. You haven’t had it easy. The fact that you are functional, successful, and growing (learning two Sedarim and a business!) is impressive. The fact that you are now determined to beat this challenge is heartwarming. I’m confident that you can get to where you want to go!! The healthy understanding of how P&M has helped you is a powerful tool that will help you move forward. 

One important tool that has helped me combat loneliness and has helped me feel positive connection is by helping others. There’s a lot of talk today about self-care, but sometimes reaching out to others allows us to find wellsprings inside that fill us up so much that we can overflow and helps others…. Caring is connection. One tip. 

Stay in touch! 
Looking forward to getting to know you better, 
Chaim Oigen 
Please feel free to reach out anytime at chaim.oigen@gmail.com
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