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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 13 Jul 2011 23:49 #111235

Dov
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dream_vision wrote on 13 Jul 2011 17:58:

And the more we fight, the easier the battle becomes!

I doubt that.

Perhaps the more we 'win' the easier the battle becomes. But clearly, the more we fight, the harder the battle becomes. Obsession with 'not giving in' breeds more obsession with the entire business. That is not the way of the Torah, and certainly not the way of any recovery I am familiar with.

But the thought was nice, and perhaps that was what you meant in the first place!

Shalom!

"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 14 Jul 2011 15:18 #111278

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Thank you for clarifying my expression. Yours is certainly what I meant. The more battles we win, the less battles we face as time progresses, and the less challenging they are. Challenging they nevertheless are, and we should never become complacent as though we've outsmarted the yetzer hara - I've tried that! But certainly a good point you made a bout 'not giving in' being part and parcel of the obsession itself.

-Igor (Baruch)

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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 14 Jul 2011 16:37 #111288

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I'm reading Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks's Faith Lecture now, and I just happened upon this particular passage, quite relevant and true:

"Cain, when G-d says to him, Lepetach chatat rovetz - sin is crouching at the door - ve'elecha teshukato - and it desires to have you - ve'ato timsho bo - but you can master it. When he says to Cain: You are free. And Cain rejects that as well."

Let's not forget, G-d gave us all free will to make the right moral choice! We can master our Yetzer Hara, our base passions, or we can let it master us. What I think is most important is that we remind ourselves every time we get an urge, every time we are challenged by the Yetzer Hara, that G-d gave us the strength to master it, and it too shall pass.

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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 14 Jul 2011 21:01 #111325

laughingman OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 424 Karma: 29	started looking again im very upset im going to sleep now
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 15 Jul 2011 03:43 #111352

Sturggle Current streak: 178 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 1706 Karma: 1	anyone available to talk?
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 15 Jul 2011 12:05 #111372

dreamedm OFFLINE Fresh Boarder Posts: 6 Karma: 1	Yes! I'm available. Good morning to you!
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 15 Jul 2011 15:28 #111383

Sturggle Current streak: 178 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 1706 Karma: 1	still available
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 15 Jul 2011 15:38 #111386

shteighecher Current streak: 24 days OFFLINE Gold Boarder KOT. ODAAT. Keep on Trucking. One Day At A Time. Posts: 216 Karma: 0	maybe i can help you ?
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 20 Jul 2011 08:41 #111705

ben durdayah Current streak: 49 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder No, that is not a mouse... Posts: 1253 Karma: 5	What's happening old friend?
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 20 Jul 2011 23:25 #111812

dreamedm OFFLINE Fresh Boarder Posts: 6 Karma: 1	HELP ME!!
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 20 Jul 2011 23:27 #111814

2nd-chance Current streak: 20 days OFFLINE Gold Boarder Posts: 249 Karma: 4	HI DV whats up tzaddik
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 20 Jul 2011 23:32 #111817

dreamedm OFFLINE Fresh Boarder Posts: 6 Karma: 1	very tempted. and single ;(
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 20 Jul 2011 23:36 #111820

2nd-chance Current streak: 20 days OFFLINE Gold Boarder Posts: 249 Karma: 4	do you want to speak
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 22 Jul 2011 04:26 #112008

HockShmockGeshmock	Help!!! I'm about to fall...got involved in the chatrooms again tonight! uchhh i have 3 days clean and i dont know if i messed it up just now...dont rlly get all the rules here, but anyone out there to make me realize what im doing is stupid stupid stupid??
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Re: I'm about to FALL!! 22 Jul 2011 09:27 #112033

Old Freind Current streak: 1 day OFFLINE Gold Boarder Posts: 168 Karma: 1	email me... I sent you a PM what exactlyare you trying to gain by chatting? A high???? you will feel like ____ after it finishes. so again what are you trying to get from it?
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