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I want to have my first CLEAN bein hazemanim EVER!!! PLEASE HELP!! 10 Oct 2011 21:14 #121671

Hey,
I am have been in very prominent Yeshivot for a while and have a severe problem with this issue. I don't remember the last week that I didn't masturbate or the last bein hazemanim that I have not looked at porn on a daily basis. I have a lot of hasmadah, learn all the sedarim, but late at night or during the breaks I have often looked at stuff on my phone and masturbated in the bathroom or shower. I am known as a shtark bochur but I felt so empty the rest of the day that this is who I am and its hard to live with myself - here I am investing so much time in learning and I am such a sick pervert. I just started with guard your eyes as a friend referred me to it and i am hoping that this will be the first bein hazemanim where i at least dont look at porn and hopefully dont masturbate. I put the web guard on my phone but i often looked at things that arent officially porn but close enough to get past it and turned it off very often so it didn't work and before yom kippur i took internet off my phone because I saw how sick I was and can't be trusted to stop this behavior and really need to separate completely.
I got involved in this around age 13 and am now in my early 20s and single. I am thinking about shidduchim etc, and I cant believe anyone would want to marry me if they knew. I am such a screwed up person and need help. How could someone be in the yeshiva system and masturbate daily??? How can he be happy in a marriage? With some support from a good friend of mine, I have gotten to a streak and today if all goes well will be day 8. But its bein hazemanim now and its so easy to access all this stuff and its only been almost 24 hours and i have been clean so far but have such urges now its very hard and need help. i put on k9 filter but i know the password so that doesn't help. i want to put on webchaver but it costs money and its going to be awkward explaining to my parents what it was for because they are the ones who get the credit card statements and look over every charge...... thanks so much everyone and hopefully i will have a great bein hazemanim.... its going to be tough, and the yetzer hara is getting stronger by the day...
on my laptop though in yeshiva i have a blocker which i dont know the password to so that is not a problem but still i can masturbate without the porn....
thanks and please leave support or feedback or advice to help me .... thanks!!!!
bein hazemanim is so long and i have so much time by myself as my siblings are at school and parents at work...
i have such a strong urge now just to go on to a porn website and jack off.... help!
also i have good keshers with some rabbeim but i feel i would destroy everything i have gained and built in regard to reputation if i talk to them about it, or even let them know even some of the extent of the problem
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Re: I want to have my first CLEAN bein hazemanim EVER!!! PLEASE HELP!! 10 Oct 2011 21:48 #121677

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hey there,

I remember feeling like it would be impossible to have a clean bein hazmanim. How could I stop for a whole bein hazmanim if I could barely stop for a good amount of time in Yeshiva?
The first time I got through a whole BH is when I already had a whole month behind me. I just didn't want to ruin the streak.
I realized that I would just have to put up proper fences and set myself up for success.
I think if you put up proper fences, you'll be ok. Remember, webchaver is a tool, it's not gonna stop you from mas****. You have to want to stop. Fences only come after wanting to stop. So, I think it would be great if you got webchaver but you can manage even without it as long as you set up other appropriate fences.
BTW, just tell your parents that you want Web chaver b.c. the rabbis say that you have to have that or a filter or something.
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Re: I want to have my first CLEAN bein hazemanim EVER!!! PLEASE HELP!! 10 Oct 2011 21:55 #121680

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hi Goodjewishboy,

welcome to the site. you will find lots of people here who share your struggle. the good news is that there is a way to help yourself. read the handbook and read what others have done with an open mind.

one of the tools used is to focus only on today. don't worry how you will last the whole bein hazmanim. focus on today. get through today - or even the next 15 minutes - clean. when the next day comes you will deal with it. you only live in the present.

wishing you lots of hatzlocha.

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Re: I want to have my first CLEAN bein hazemanim EVER!!! PLEASE HELP!! 12 Oct 2011 05:32 #121865

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Dear good jewish boy. yo wrote:
I am such a screwed up person and need help. How could someone be in the yeshiva system and masturbate daily??? How can he be happy in a marriage?

answer:
as you will see on this website you are actualy quite normal and B"H healthy which is why you have these natural urges (even if not so more because you are in the yeshivah system). you know it is wrong and want to stop the two most crucial parts to recovery (in my opinion). you will stop eventualy simply because you want to. you will never give up even if you chas vshalom fall. we will not let you. and that will lead to your im yertzah hashem happy marriage (even if you dont fully recover beforehand).

you wrote:

i have good keshers with some rabbeim but i feel i would destroy everything i have gained and built in regard to reputation if i talk to them about it, or even let them know even some of the extent of the problem

answer:
you should have a rebbi you you feel loves you. and the fact that you are afraid of destroying your relationship with them is a good sign. is you feel uncomfortable talking to any of them about your issue try to find a rabbi in your comunity who you are not afraid of. don't worry you would be suprised what rabbis have to deal with (look around at these forums for an incling).

good luck
from a fellow yeshivah bocher now B"H learning in Kollel and happily married. see my post in the "breaking free" section on how i beat (well not really beat but suppressed) my addiction.
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