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Re: "All ticklish kids like black jelly beans!" 17 Aug 2011 19:02 #115082

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Hello chaver, just figured i would try once more to connect. I like fleshing out the details of how the 12 steps shtims with torah hashkafa. I see your thread was banned but would be intersted in keeping up this discussion if you wished. Best regards.


In general, it's best if you e-mail me.

The above text was sent to me in a private message through the site just a few minutes ago, but I'm responding to it publicly so others will know that they can take the same route too. My private messages aren't private anyways, as Guard has revealed to me that he's been watching my inbox as well (- although I'm not sure what gives him the right). Therefore, if anyone would like to continue this conversation with me or to discuss with me anything which might be considered private, I encourage them to take the email route.

My email address is exrtaacc2@gmail.com.
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Re: "All ticklish kids like black jelly beans!" 17 Aug 2011 19:11 #115088

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YMG wrote on 17 Aug 2011 19:02:

My private messages aren't private anyways, as Guard has revealed to me that he's been watching my inbox as well (- although I'm not sure what gives him the right). Therefore, if anyone would like to continue this conversation with me or to discuss with me anything which might be considered private, I encourage them to take the email route.


Who gives him the right ? He is the Administartor, didn't you know by yourself that the Administrator can see everything. Do you think the Administartors at Google can not read your emails there ?.

Guard would be the last person, i would hold a secret from him. He is a Tzodik, a lifesaver for Klol Yisroel. We all love the heliga Guard.

I think that Guard even reccomended that you keep on communicating privately with those that are intrested and thats why he didnt deleted your thread entirely, even though, you know he can do oit. He probaly editing the dangreous stuff.

Good. Please stay around and help our friends here that despertly need your advice. Those that 12 steps don't work for them. You are a Tzodik for your interest in helping them and for spending time with them. Keep it up and keep on trucking. Hotzlucha.
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Re: "All ticklish kids like black jelly beans!" 17 Aug 2011 19:57 #115118

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YMG

I love you. You're a heiliger yid, trying to make a difference and I appreciate that.

You may have great ideas that make a lot of Torah sense, but

you have an n of 1 (yourself) or maybe 2 if you count your rosh yeshiva friend (and maybe a few more we haven't yet heard about.)

The 12 steps, including the Torahdik version practiced here, has helped tens of millions of addicts, frum and otherwise.

Start a program using your approach, help a few hundred frum addicts recover, document your findings, and then you'll have what to talk about.

When evaluating treatments for diseases, we don't do what makes sense.  We do what's proven.  To prove, you need numbers, not ideas.


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Re: "All ticklish kids like black jelly beans!" 18 Aug 2011 17:29 #115277

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YMG wrote on 17 Aug 2011 19:02:

My private messages aren't private anyways, as Guard has revealed to me that he's been watching my inbox as well (- although I'm not sure what gives him the right).


Someone once taught me how to view PM's. (I wonder who?  That person used to do it all the time  :o)

And yes, everyone on this forum should know that we periodically scan the PM's being sent on this site. (Just 3 days ago we had to block a girl that had found a way to PM men somehow on the site.)

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Re: "All ticklish kids like black jelly beans!" 18 Aug 2011 18:24 #115293

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guardureyes wrote on 18 Aug 2011 17:29:

And yes, everyone on this forum should know that we periodically scan the PM's being sent on this site. (Just 3 days ago we had to block a girl that had found a way to PM men somehow on the site.)


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Re: "All ticklish kids like black jelly beans!" 18 Aug 2011 18:31 #115299

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Guard can control our dreams too. Of course he can see the PM's. I think there is even much more that he's capable of, and we will find out one day.

Listen, if he can help me be clean, he is VERY capable. He in Eretz Yisroel helping me in New York be clean.

For those of you that are suprised about Guard being able to see PM's, Have you ever thought what Hoshem can see and do ? think about is, if Hoshem created Guard, he's definitely more capable then Guard and he can see and do more... you know what he can see ? you know what he can read ? wow, its very scary. But, after all Hoshem is our father, he loves us, he will forgive us if we take the right steps.
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Re: "All ticklish kids like black jelly beans!" 18 Aug 2011 20:22 #115342

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alexeliezer wrote on 17 Aug 2011 19:57:

YMG

I love you. You're a heiliger yid, trying to make a difference and I appreciate that.

You may have great ideas that make a lot of Torah sense, but

you have an n of 1 (yourself) or maybe 2 if you count your rosh yeshiva friend (and maybe a few more we haven't yet heard about.)

The 12 steps, including the Torahdik version practiced here, has helped tens of millions of addicts, frum and otherwise.

Start a program using your approach, help a few hundred frum addicts recover, document your findings, and then you'll have what to talk about.

When evaluating treatments for diseases, we don't do what makes sense.  We do what's proven.  To prove, you need numbers, not ideas.

Ditto.
Medical efforts that show success are evidence based, not theoretical. If your research shows that a certain procedure reduces hospital stay for a significant amount of post-op patients, then you do this procedure even if you have a theory why it shouldn't/doesn't work. V'Hanimshal muvon.
Baby steps.
If the road is pulling you down, it's a sign that you are going uphill, so just press harder on the gas!

Have a great day - unless, of course, you made other plans.
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