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Re: Short insights with long lasting results 15 Dec 2019 05:55 #345952

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gyehelp2017 wrote on 08 Dec 2019 02:59:
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You can't solve problems by using the same thinking you used when you created them. Lets try to connect to Hashem in new ways, so we don't have to go back to our old ways.

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Re: Short insights with long lasting results 17 Dec 2019 16:46 #346019

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Hashem never abandons us. Sometimes we don't see His presence and we think we are alone, but the truth is Hashem never leaves us, He is always looking out for our success!

Re: Short insights with long lasting results 18 Dec 2019 16:02 #346046

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sleepy wrote on 15 Dec 2019 05:55:

gyehelp2017 wrote on 08 Dec 2019 02:59:
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You can't solve problems by using the same thinking you used when you created them. Lets try to connect to Hashem in new ways, so we don't have to go back to our old ways.

sorry, need further explanation, dont get it.

still dont get it 
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Last Edit: 18 Dec 2019 16:03 by sleepy.

Re: Short insights with long lasting results 18 Dec 2019 16:36 #346050

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sleepy wrote on 18 Dec 2019 16:02:

sleepy wrote on 15 Dec 2019 05:55:

gyehelp2017 wrote on 08 Dec 2019 02:59:
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You can't solve problems by using the same thinking you used when you created them. Lets try to connect to Hashem in new ways, so we don't have to go back to our old ways.

sorry, need further explanation, dont get it.

still dont get it 

Break the Cycle. Sometimes we get into patterns that aren’t working. Even if you feel that you are ‘right,’ break out of the cycle. Stop doing the same action over and over again. Have the courage to say: Let’s start over. 
“Insanity is not doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results; insanity is doing the same thing over and over again knowing full well what the results will be.”
"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, who am I? If not now, when?"
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Re: Short insights with long lasting results 18 Dec 2019 16:43 #346051

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DavidT wrote on 18 Dec 2019 16:36:

sleepy wrote on 18 Dec 2019 16:02:

sleepy wrote on 15 Dec 2019 05:55:

gyehelp2017 wrote on 08 Dec 2019 02:59:
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You can't solve problems by using the same thinking you used when you created them. Lets try to connect to Hashem in new ways, so we don't have to go back to our old ways.

sorry, need further explanation, dont get it.

still dont get it 

Break the Cycle. Sometimes we get into patterns that aren’t working. Even if you feel that you are ‘right,’ break out of the cycle. Stop doing the same action over and over again. Have the courage to say: Let’s start over. 
“Insanity is not doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results; insanity is doing the same thing over and over again knowing full well what the results will be.”

thanks for fixing up einstiens saying , never liked it ,if you ever saw the picture of him sticking out his tounge ,then youd know the meaning of insane,but anyway, i still dont get it, i never was the brightest bulb in the bunch, can anyone give me an example?
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Re: Short insights with long lasting results 18 Dec 2019 17:01 #346052

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sleepy wrote on 18 Dec 2019 16:43:

DavidT wrote on 18 Dec 2019 16:36:

sleepy wrote on 18 Dec 2019 16:02:

sleepy wrote on 15 Dec 2019 05:55:

gyehelp2017 wrote on 08 Dec 2019 02:59:
#91
You can't solve problems by using the same thinking you used when you created them. Lets try to connect to Hashem in new ways, so we don't have to go back to our old ways.

sorry, need further explanation, dont get it.

still dont get it 

Break the Cycle. Sometimes we get into patterns that aren’t working. Even if you feel that you are ‘right,’ break out of the cycle. Stop doing the same action over and over again. Have the courage to say: Let’s start over. 
“Insanity is not doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results; insanity is doing the same thing over and over again knowing full well what the results will be.”

thanks for fixing up einstiens saying , never liked it ,if you ever saw the picture of him sticking out his tounge ,then youd know the meaning of insane,but anyway, i still dont get it, i never was the brightest bulb in the bunch, can anyone give me an example?


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Re: Short insights with long lasting results 18 Dec 2019 17:59 #346057

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if thats what gyehelp2017 meant ,then nice , i just thought he was saying something else .thank you.
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Re: Short insights with long lasting results 19 Dec 2019 16:18 #346077

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There is always that moment or that urge that we cry out 'This is to hard for me to overcome, I just cant!'. Let us remember, that Hashem gave us this test so that we should overcome it and grow, so then obviously He gave us the tools we need to keep strong!
Last Edit: 19 Dec 2019 17:36 by gyehelp2017.

Re: Short insights with long lasting results 20 Dec 2019 12:31 #346101

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gyehelp2017 wrote on 19 Dec 2019 16:18:
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There is always that moment or that urge that we cry out 'This is to hard for me to overcome, I just cant!'. Let us remember, that Hashem gave us this test so that we should overcome it and grow, so then obviously He gave us the tools we need to keep strong!

Or perhaps, He gave us this test that is indeed too strong for us, to see if we will turn to Him for help.
For me, the idea that ''since I got this test - I must be able to overcome it' has only added layer upon layer of guilt, since no matter how hard I tried, I still fell. The guilt grew so strong that I'm actually convinced that I'm a failure and a faulty person. 
Today i see, that sometimes Hashem gives me a nisoyon that I indeed can not win, but He is waiting for me to really turn to Him, so that He will pull me out.

Great thread
Ty
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Re: Short insights with long lasting results 20 Dec 2019 13:22 #346103

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Why would hashem give us a nisayon just so we would ask for his help? Lichorah he can't give an order if it's not possible to carry it out by ourselves.
the pshat is that hashem wants us to uncover our innermost selves to withstand the "test"
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Re: Short insights with long lasting results 20 Dec 2019 14:38 #346107

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G‑d's tests are intended to uncover within an individual hidden powers which would otherwise be untapped.
When faced with difficulty and challenges we must keep in mind that this is actually a display of trust on G‑d's part. We must live up to G‑d's high expectations, and then the test will have outlived its purpose and will vanish.
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Re: Short insights with long lasting results 20 Dec 2019 16:09 #346110

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Tzvi5 wrote on 20 Dec 2019 13:22:
.....Lichorah he can't give an order if it's not possible to carry it out by ourselves....

Where does it say that?
i believe He can do whatever He wants.
Certainly everything that He does is for a good reason, but I don't always know what that reason is, and I certainly don't know what He can or "can't" do.

For example, if someone is very sick in a hospital, it'll be very very hard for him to davin with a minyan. Should he say that since Hashem gave me this test - He must know that I can do it, or perhaps he should say that this test of davining with a minyan is too much for me right now, and instead focus on the One who sent him the "test" and try to figure out what He really wants from him.

​Bichira does not always apply to every situation. Some things may be beyond us. Thats not a free license to act out and enjoy it because "it's too hard not to", but it does mean that if this situation is  beyond our control, then we better get on the phone with The One Above, or some other action that can help us, and TRY, but remember that the end result is up to Hashem, not us.
BIG SHOT!
Free Choice?!
Yirai's Memories
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Dr. Seuss - You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself in any direction you choose. You're on your own, and you know what you know. And you are the guy who'll decide where to go.

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Re: Short insights with long lasting results 20 Dec 2019 16:14 #346112

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stillgoing wrote on 20 Dec 2019 16:09:

Tzvi5 wrote on 20 Dec 2019 13:22:
.....Lichorah he can't give an order if it's not possible to carry it out by ourselves....


Where does it say that?
i believe He can do whatever He wants.
Certainly everything that He does is for a good reason, but I don't always know what that reason is, and I certainly don't know what He can or "can't" do.

For example, if someone is very sick in a hospital, it'll be very very hard for him to davin with a minyan. Should he say that since Hashem gave me this test - He must know that I can do it, or perhaps he should say that this test of davining with a minyan is too much for me right now, and instead focus on the One who sent him the "test" and try to figure out what He really wants from him.

​Bichira does not always apply to every situation. Some things may be beyond us. Thats not a free license to act out and enjoy it because "it's too hard not to", but it does mean that if this situation is  beyond our control, then we better get on the phone with The One Above, or some other action that can help us, and TRY, but remember that the end result is up to Hashem, not us.

This is tricky.  But yes, one can say there are times we are set up to "fail" in order to achieve a bigger purpose. 

Re: Short insights with long lasting results 22 Dec 2019 21:55 #346157

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We don't have to try to grow up to be the greatest person of all mankind, but we do have to try to use our abilities that Hashem gave us to the max, and that IS the greatest we can be!

Re: Short insights with long lasting results 26 Dec 2019 07:09 #346240

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stillgoing wrote on 20 Dec 2019 12:31:

gyehelp2017 wrote on 19 Dec 2019 16:18:
#96
There is always that moment or that urge that we cry out 'This is to hard for me to overcome, I just cant!'. Let us remember, that Hashem gave us this test so that we should overcome it and grow, so then obviously He gave us the tools we need to keep strong!

Or perhaps, He gave us this test that is indeed too strong for us, to see if we will turn to Him for help.
For me, the idea that ''since I got this test - I must be able to overcome it' has only added layer upon layer of guilt, since no matter how hard I tried, I still fell. The guilt grew so strong that I'm actually convinced that I'm a failure and a faulty person. 
Today i see, that sometimes Hashem gives me a nisoyon that I indeed can not win, but He is waiting for me to really turn to Him, so that He will pull me out.

Great thread
Ty
Kutgw

Hashem doesnt give us a test which we cant overcome, so if a fiery yetzer hara tests us , we can do it,the only problem is when we pour lighter fuel on the yetzer then it turns into a fiery  conflagration , which if we call out to Hashem ,He will be so kind to help us even though this was not the original test which was sent our way.
so  as guilty i might feel for failing tests that Hashem has sent my way, i agree to :
that Hashem gave us this test so that we should overcome it and grow, so then obviously He gave us the tools we need to keep strong!
For an explanation on my choice of username and avatar see my first post
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