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Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery?
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 20 Jul 2016 14:28 #292332

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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 20 Jul 2016 14:54 #292335

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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 04 Aug 2016 05:24 #293306

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Shlomo24 wrote:
They can if they want to. There is a member of GYE who is not jewish and he posts every day. 

The question why chiloynim would even care about shmiras einayim. 
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 04 Aug 2016 05:45 #293307

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I don't know if you're serious but it can't hurt to make this point: Non - Jews care about lust recovery for exactly the same reason I do. I have zero religious motivation to not act out. But when I act out, I am insane. I can't take care of my basic needs, I feel like complete garbage, I put myself in danger, I can't be present, it runs my life, I'm dishonest with people, I'm not consistent, amongst many other things. None of what I mentioned has anything to do with religion. It's about living a healthy and productive life. Not about avoiding hell. For people who don't have it as serious, they might not... But they might because they realize by lusting after people they are objectifying them and not viewing them as humans. By watching porn they can be supporting an abusive industry, etc.
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 04 Aug 2016 10:19 #293320

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ehrliche.bochur wrote on 04 Aug 2016 05:24:

Shlomo24 wrote:
They can if they want to. There is a member of GYE who is not jewish and he posts every day. 

The question why chiloynim would even care about shmiras einayim. 

I'm actually thinking of deleting this disgusting comment. As it probably came to many people's emails, I cannot sit idle without noting my utter distaste.
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 04 Aug 2016 10:46 #293321

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cordnoy wrote on 04 Aug 2016 10:19:

ehrliche.bochur wrote on 04 Aug 2016 05:24:

Shlomo24 wrote:
They can if they want to. There is a member of GYE who is not jewish and he posts every day. 

The question why chiloynim would even care about shmiras einayim. 

I'm actually thinking of deleting this disgusting comment. As it probably came to many people's emails, I cannot sit idle without noting my utter distaste.

Cordony, you can delete if you decide so,
But maybe it's just the right time to teach those who don't know yet, that there are many goyim, cheloynim.... who have nothing to do with  torha and gehenom and still remain sober.
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 09 Nov 2016 17:18 #297604

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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 25 Nov 2018 18:57 #337480

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It's interesting that gye is majorly winning the vote, but the impression that i get from most of the people here that I've "met" with long sobriety, say that gye was only the springboard (although very important) to bring them to the next level of sobriety. I wonder if the majority who voted gye was actually fooling ourselves that we are sober......   don't shoot - just a thought
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 25 Nov 2018 19:06 #337482

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The answer may depend on whether you define “sober” as “not acting out” or as “not needing/wanting to act out”. 
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And every day that you want to waste, that you want to waste, you can
And every day that you want to wake up, that you want to wake, you can
And every day that you want to change, that you want to change, yeah
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Re: Poll: What was your Primary Source of Recovery? 25 Nov 2018 19:24 #337483

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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 25 Nov 2018 19:06:
The answer may depend on whether you define “sober” as “not acting out” or as “not needing/wanting to act out”. 

Yes, that's basically what I meant. I don't consider “not acting out” as being sober. My chart defines how many days I white knuckled. That's a dry drunk. not sobriety. no?
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